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re: Will the 28 TOPS requirement keep students in LA?

Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:32 am to
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:32 am to
28 = less people going to school to flunk out after 1 year = lower tuition = good.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:33 am to
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got a 24 the first time I took the thing. I then switched to taking the SAT so I could go to an Ivy league school.


Did you preform that much better on the SAT than you did on the ACT?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:35 am to
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Did you preform that much better on the SAT than you did on the ACT?


After studying for it and taking it several times, yes I did. I would have done better on the ACT if I had studied for it like I did the SAT, but I had a score good enough to get me into LSU and TOPS so I put my efforts into focussing on the SAT.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:36 am to
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Tulane isn't better than LSU

Well Louisiana has 4 Nationally tiered universities. 3 of those are ranked in the top 200 schools in the country. LSU and LaTech are both in the 100's and Tulane is in the 40s on a yearly basis, and USL is tiered but unranked in the top 200. Whether the value of a Tulane degree is comparable versus a degree from LSU is certainly arguable, but the overall perception of academics at TUlane is regarded as better than LSU.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:36 am to
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put my efforts into focussing on the SAT.


Did you go Ivy League?
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:38 am to
Again...ULL. LSU and the better schools out of state are not impressed with scores of 28 and 29.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:39 am to
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LSU and the better schools out of state are not impressed with scores of 28 and 29.


except LSU offered me a scholarship...
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:41 am to
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Did you go Ivy League?


No. I got high enough on the SAT to get in to Yale, but not high enough to get enough fiancial aid to offset the additional costs. It would have cost me about $20,000/yr to go to Yale and LSU was free. Plus I didn't like it when I went for a college visit. This southern boy would not have been able to handle the Ct winter.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:43 am to
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I got high enough on the SAT to get in to Yale,


That's interesting.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:45 am to
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Again...ULL. LSU and the better schools out of state are not impressed with scores of 28 and 29.


Provide a detailed example.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:47 am to
Lowest level tops was 20. Not 19.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:48 am to
I agree with you. I think that schools have changed their teaching to aim more at the tests and made overall grading a little easier. Average ACT scores pre-TOPS was pretty low, and part of the reason for the lower initial qualifying number was to give the kids some attainable target. Now that the averages are higher, raise the TOPS minimum. Something like 24 sounds like a good number to me.

Now we need to also understand that there are a number of people who have wanted to kill TOPS for years and are using the budget to justify that agenda. A 28 minimum would pretty much make it unattainable for most of the current recipients, and even if we got our money in order in a year or two, lowering the standards (from 28 to some other number) at that time would be almost impossible.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:49 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:50 am to
but not high enough on the mcat for a US med school?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:50 am to
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quote: I got high enough on the SAT to get in to Yale, That's interesting.


Lot of potheads in the Ivy League schools. How else do you think they come up with the shite that comes out of there?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:50 am to
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A 28 minimum would pretty much make it unattainable for most of the current recipients, and even if we got our money in order in a year or two, lowering the standards (from 28 to some other number) at that time would be almost impossible.


LSU in-state tuition isn't some absurd number that will put you in debt the rest of your life.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19357 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:52 am to
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Again...ULL. LSU and the better schools out of state are not impressed with scores of 28 and 29.


Then why did LSU offer me full tuition and books and I chose ULL?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:54 am to
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How else do you think they come up with the shite that comes out of there?


Creative and intuitive thinking? Not regurgitating non-sense facts?

Most people that attend Ivy League schools have it mapped out for years. They also have a fine understanding of what they want to study and are opened to new avenues when in said school, to pursue and develop their hobbies/talent.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:54 am to
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but not high enough on the mcat for a US med school?


My MCAT was not what kept me from getting into a US medical school. It was my horrible science and math GPA from LSU (thanks Bogies). I had a 29 on the MCAT and was waited listed for 3 DO schools and was #1 on the wait list for one of them, but I did not feel like waiting another year since AUC has similar USMLE pass rate and every doctor I knew and my advisors told me to go.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38408 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:01 am to
Do people realize how expensive out of state tuition is? Even if they cant get TOPS its cheaper to go to school in state.
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2788 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:04 am to
Because you are lying. No one would choose ULL over lsu. That is absurd.
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