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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:26 am to
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Haha. No.



in a heated argument, no contact made, its hard to make that case that Hayes wasn't the initial aggressor in that scene. but i'm just a smart dude with no legal background.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:26 am to
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his leads me to believe that someone in the smith camp was threatening with a gun. they all say nothing about anyone having a weapon or mentioning a weapon but the witness on that recorded video at the scene describing what happened talks about both men talking about guns.


the prosecution is trying to paint the story as Hayes just ambushed with the gun. JMO
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:27 am to
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If that is the case, it makes it pretty easy. Ballgame.

Is the 911 tape going to be played for the jury?


I'm sure it will be. The 911 call was made by an off duty police officer who left the Half Moon, and walked towards the scene. He asked Cardell Hayes what happened while he was on the phone with 911, and you could clearly hear that statement made.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:29 am to
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Haha. No.
Haha, Ok
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:29 am to
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This is absolutely what Hayes should have done



Just like Smith shouldnt have driven drunk


And then shouldnt have hit and ran
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:30 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:30 am to
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in a heated argument, no contact made, its hard to make that case that Hayes wasn't the initial aggressor in that scene
Eventhough it appears Smith and his shirtless aggressive friend approached Hayes vehicle?
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:30 am to
State v Bell is a good case to look at I think.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:30 am to
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 5m5 minutes ago
Hernandez said the Smiths, he and his wife were only at Sake Cafe with Pierre Thomas, others for 20-30 minutes before drive downtown.

not likely will took 8 shots in 20 minutes.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:31 am to
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friend approached Hayes vehicle?


checking on the rear end bro, you can clearly see will's glasses fell off examining the benz bro.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:31 am to
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Eventhough it appears Smith and his shirtless aggressive friend approached Hayes vehicle?



Do you have anything to support the above being enough justification to shoot someone?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:31 am to
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not likely will took 8 shots in 20 minutes.
Well

dat .240 bac doe
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:31 am to
I think the disconnect in this thread is that some people are arguing about what they feel should be the right way to handle the situation as it is happening versus the people who are arguing the semantics of what makes the actions legal or not...


Hope that makes sense, it did in my head
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:32 am to
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dat .240 bac doe


dat dead body test result.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:32 am to
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Do you have anything to support the above being enough justification to shoot someone?
Did I say it was?

I was responding to the comment on who was the initial aggressor(i know i know it doesnt matter bunch)
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:32 am to
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the people who are arguing the semantics of what makes the actions legal or not...




Isn't that what a trial is all about?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:32 am to
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dat dead body test result.
dat we really listening to red stick tigress doe?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:32 am to
John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 1m1 minute ago
Hernandez: "I never once lifted my hands up. I never once took a swing at him. He took a swing at me. He swung so hard he lost his balance."
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:33 am to
The alcohol doesn't really interest me although I know you guys love to make a big deal of it.

He was drunk. He shouldn't have been driving.

So what? Even if he's drunk out there screaming at Hayes, it isn't particularly relevant.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:33 am to
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dat we really listening to red stick tigress doe?


everyone in this thread listens to what fits their narrative. #truth
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:33 am to
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or was he making the argument to please step back in his own defense?
yeah, I totally don't see this happening
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