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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:51 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:51 pm to lsupride87
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You are being slow tonight
I'm not the one that can't accept Hayes is going to jail.
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In diats scenario, he said don't ever talk to the police. And if Hayes is telling the truth, he has shown why not to
Hayes isn't telling the truth, and that's the case we're discussing. Fred would tell you to stay on topic.
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You are purposely not seeing he is making a general point
I see it just fine. You on the other hand refuse to see that Hayes would have been best served by not emptying his mag into Smith that night. They are both good advice, but you Hayses wouldn't need diat's if he listens to mine.
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I am not letting you rope me in again. My baby actually fell asleep early so I am going enjoy a beer
If anyone's been roped in, it's me. You'll never just admit that Hayes deserves jail based on everything presented.
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Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:53 pm to diat150
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Words fall from your mouth like shite from arse. Did I not out a bad enough beating on you the other day? Even a moderator had to step in to stop you from making an even bigger arse out of yourself. That in itself should have taught you to challenge someone of a higher station in a war of wits.
Outstanding job completely ducking the meat of my post.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:53 pm to LNCHBOX
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Outstanding job completely ducking the meat of my post.
I wasnt worried about it just wanted to use a batiatus quote.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:56 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:One thing you will learn, there are very smart people that will not agree with everything you think. When you grow older hopefully you can learn to accept that
If anyone's been roped in, it's me. You'll never just admit that Hayes deserves jail based on everything presented.
There are 100s of excellent attorneys who will view the same exact case and will be split on what they think the verdict should be. This is no different
This case has completely biased smith tards, completely biased Hayes tards, and then people viewing the evidence logically who will be either for the prosecution or the defense. There are people in this thread who are for guilty based on how the see the facts. I disagree, but would never say they need to admit they are wrong, because it is of a matter of interpretation
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:58 pm to lsupride87
quote:You really need to stop talking down to me. You're being a hypocrite for the umpteenth time in this thread.
One thing you will learn, there are very smart people that will not agree with everything you think. When you grow older hopefully you can learn to accept that
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:26 pm to LNCHBOX
I don't think Hayes is a threat to society and I feel it was a really bad chain of events that took place this past spring that left a beloved saints player dead. Hayes has been in one of the worse jails in America for the last 8-9 months. I'm honest when I say I wouldn't feel any less safe or that justice wasn't served if he walks out of they god forsaken place of OPP next week.
I do feel sorry for RS and his poor children, but there was some decisions made by their mother and father that day and night including the company they held, that I feel had just as much to do with the tragedy as any other decisions made by any other parties.
I do feel sorry for RS and his poor children, but there was some decisions made by their mother and father that day and night including the company they held, that I feel had just as much to do with the tragedy as any other decisions made by any other parties.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:30 pm to SuperSaint
Weak shite Supa. Only one decision brought fatal consequences
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:38 pm to Chad504boy
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Only one decision brought fatal consequences
The decision to drive drunk?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:43 pm to LNCHBOX
I been st Christmas party tody and night I missed the case today miss you guys talk bout it tomorow gotta go read every thing that said today
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:45 pm to SuperSaint
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I don't think Hayes is a threat to society and I feel it was a really bad chain of events that took place this past spring that left a beloved saints player dead. Hayes has been in one of the worse jails in America for the last 8-9 months. I'm honest when I say I wouldn't feel any less safe or that justice wasn't served if he walks out of they god forsaken place of OPP next week
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. He evidently committed a major crime, he needs to pay for it. Who knows what situation he might find himself in next where he decided to kill someone if you just let this one slide?
What an absolutely horrifying precedent that would set.
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that I feel had just as much to do with the tragedy as any other decisions made by any other parties.
Equally ridiculous. Hayes made this situation lethal. There is zero evidence, at least presented through this thread, that anyone else did.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:53 pm to LNCHBOX
Well considering I know the ADA's star witness and had lunch with him just this week, I'll stick to my statement that "I wouldn't feel any less safe or that justice wasn't served". And Hayes didn't 'evidently' commit a major crime, but there was a major tragedy.
Eta: meant prosecution not defense
Eta: meant prosecution not defense
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 10:59 pm to SuperSaint
Wuldnt he defense star witness be cardell?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:05 pm to SuperSaint
SS if u know something that ain't been posted say it... it's late bra lol fuller and Camille are sleepin
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:19 pm to lsupride87
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I think Hayes did fear for his life though
However, I don't believe he had reasonable reasons to fear for his life
Nothing about how the situation went down paints the picture of Hayes killing Smith out of anger or rage
However, I think with what I just said my vote as a juror would be manslaughter. I really wish we had a witness that was neutral that was closer to Smith/Hayes during the shooting
This is pretty much how I feel as well.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:27 pm to SuperSaint
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I think he feared for his life as well... and I'll be honest if I had a confrontation with someone the size of WS I would possibly be unreasonably fearful of my life, but if I was to know they were a saints player, it would probably drop that fear almost to zero
Hayes is just as big if not bigger than Smith
You're 6'0 160 lbs. you're probably scared of your own shadow.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:33 pm to tgrbaitn08
6'1" 168 but I'm scrappy af
And MrHangnail, it's not that I have anything to actually add by taking to a witness friend, but I just get a feeling that there was much more commotion and screaming and fighting and arguing than what people are thinking. It seems reading this thread and the twitter accounts and the timelines laid out on the witness stand that they tried to package it all chronological. Like tLSU talking about the turning around and walking away would mean that a reasonable person would have their 'blood cooled' and stuff like that just comes across as not how it happened.
I think shite got escalated and was tense as frick and a tragedy happened. I don't think Hayes got out the car wanting to kill anyone and think he was truly remorseful even immediatly following the shooting when his blood actually 'cooled' and he had time to process what happened.
And MrHangnail, it's not that I have anything to actually add by taking to a witness friend, but I just get a feeling that there was much more commotion and screaming and fighting and arguing than what people are thinking. It seems reading this thread and the twitter accounts and the timelines laid out on the witness stand that they tried to package it all chronological. Like tLSU talking about the turning around and walking away would mean that a reasonable person would have their 'blood cooled' and stuff like that just comes across as not how it happened.
I think shite got escalated and was tense as frick and a tragedy happened. I don't think Hayes got out the car wanting to kill anyone and think he was truly remorseful even immediatly following the shooting when his blood actually 'cooled' and he had time to process what happened.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:47 pm to Chad504boy
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Posted by Chad504boy on 12/10/16 at 10:30 pm to SuperSaint
Weak shite Supa. Only one decision brought fatal consequences
So when do you think it's OK to pull a trigger in self defense?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:09 am to SuperSaint
SS is hitting a lot of what I feel about the situation
I wouldn't be shocked if a juror agrees that he had no intention to shoot but for protection, even if he judged it wrong, but will 3? I don't know. Depends on how the atmosphere has in the court was, how the mood in the jury room ends up, etc...
Edit: I dont think he walks but I could see them try to soften it
I wouldn't be shocked if a juror agrees that he had no intention to shoot but for protection, even if he judged it wrong, but will 3? I don't know. Depends on how the atmosphere has in the court was, how the mood in the jury room ends up, etc...
Edit: I dont think he walks but I could see them try to soften it
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 12:10 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:46 am to NoSaint
Are closing arguments today or did they recess until Monday?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 6:35 am to 4LSU2
Today at 9am.
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