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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/11/16 at 6:50 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 12/11/16 at 6:50 am to SuperSaint
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I don't think Hayes is a threat to society and I feel it was a really bad chain of events that took place this past spring that left a beloved saints player dead. Hayes has been in one of the worse jails in America for the last 8-9 months. I'm honest when I say I wouldn't feel any less safe or that justice wasn't served if he walks out of they god forsaken place of OPP next week.
I do feel sorry for RS and his poor children, but there was some decisions made by their mother and father that day and night including the company they held, that I feel had just as much to do with the tragedy as any other decisions made by any other parties.
Exactly.
The fact that some here can't accept that two different people can come to two different conclusions is mind boggling.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 7:56 am to Janky
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The fact that some here can't accept that two different people can come to two different conclusions is mind boggling.
I don't think too many of y'all have been particularly accepting of my opinion on the matter. Does that boggle your mind too, or does it only work in one direction?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 7:59 am to SuperSaint
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Well considering I know the ADA's star witness and had lunch with him just this week, I'll stick to my statement that "I wouldn't feel any less safe or that justice wasn't served". And Hayes didn't 'evidently' commit a major crime, but there was a major tragedy.
Eta: meant prosecution not defense
Well, your friend did a horrible job of making it sound that way in court. If you have some inside info to share, spill it.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:08 am to SuperSaint
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I don't think Hayes is a threat to society and I feel it was a really bad chain of events
Anyone that chases another person down, slams into the back of persons vehicle, approaches the vehicle with a gun, shoots person 8 times in the back, is a threat t to society IMO.
quote:
ayes has been in one of the worse jails in America for the last 8-9 months. I'm honest when I say I wouldn't feel any less safe or that justice wasn't served if he walks out of they god forsaken place of OPP next week.
So the sentence for murder should now only be 8-9 months??
quote:
but there was some decisions made by their mother and father that day and night including the company they held, that I feel had just as much to do with the tragedy as any other decisions made by any other parties.
Sure lets blame the victim
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 8:12 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:09 am to tgrbaitn08
If my post last night was any indication, prepare for deluge of downvotes.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:38 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:Are you miataken or did you intentionally lie?
Anyone that chases another person down, slams into the back of persons vehicle, approaches the vehicle with a gun, shoots person 8 times in the back, is a threat t to society IMO.
Hayes vehicle was the one approached with what neutral witnesses called 3 agressive and angry men
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:39 am to LNCHBOX
I'm watching a WWLTV FB commentary/interview of Chick Foret. He's said that the jurors can't take notes ... WHY?
Can they at least ask for portions of the transcript while in the jury room?? Foret said he's studied the case for months and the jurors have had since Monday and that he (Foret) has been following for months and would have to review notes/his tweets to set things straight.
Can they at least ask for portions of the transcript while in the jury room?? Foret said he's studied the case for months and the jurors have had since Monday and that he (Foret) has been following for months and would have to review notes/his tweets to set things straight.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:47 am to lsupride87
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quote:
Anyone that chases another person down, slams into the back of persons vehicle, approaches the vehicle with a gun, shoots person 8 times in the back, is a threat t to society IMO.
Your mind reads like news site clickbait.
Breaking news: High speed chase ends as car slams into car's rear end,armed man jumps out of car and shoots unarmed black man in back 8 times.
You are basically the definition of taking things out of context.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 8:49 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:51 am to SomethingLikeA
quote:Yep. Could also list this :
Your mind reads like news site clickbait.
Breaking news: High speed chase ends as car slams into car's rear end,armed man jumps out of car and shoots unarmed black man in back 8 times.
You are basically the definition of taking things out of context.
Breaking news: Man shoots drunk angry black man who witness says acted "angry and aggressive" after fender bender
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
quote:
Hayes vehicle was the one approached with what neutral witnesses called 3 agressive and angry men
They were angry because some jackass just slammed into the back of them
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:12 am to lsupride87
quote:
Are you miataken or did you intentionally lie?
Hayes vehicle was the one approached with what neutral witnesses called 3 agressive and angry men
Are you ignoring where all the bullet casings were found?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:12 am to tgrbaitn08
Guy on twitter says he expects Fuller to talk for 2-2.5 hours 
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:13 am to LNCHBOX
quote:That isn't the chain of events he posted lnch
Are you ignoring where all the bullet casings were found?
Don't be obtuse to start an another stupid argument for 10 pages
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:16 am to lsupride87
We know through witness testimony that Smith and party approached Hayes vehicle
We know through evidence Hayes shot Smith by smiths vehicle
So the main thing the state needs to prove is that hayes follows Smith to his vehicle not out of reasonable fear for his life
And they didn't. The state to me didn't produced any evidence of any testing of why the shootings occurred. And since the burden of proof is on them to show that he murdered Smith not out of reasonable fear, I think he should walk
The state couldn't produce any witness that even saw the shooting, much less could say it wasn't out of reasonable fear
We know through evidence Hayes shot Smith by smiths vehicle
So the main thing the state needs to prove is that hayes follows Smith to his vehicle not out of reasonable fear for his life
And they didn't. The state to me didn't produced any evidence of any testing of why the shootings occurred. And since the burden of proof is on them to show that he murdered Smith not out of reasonable fear, I think he should walk
The state couldn't produce any witness that even saw the shooting, much less could say it wasn't out of reasonable fear
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:17 am to lsupride87
He didn't post every last detail. You can't help yourself but to still take up for Hayes.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:22 am to GynoSandberg
loving Napoli's dramatics this morning in his closing
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
quote:Holy crap
Judge Buras does not limit attorneys during close. I expect Fuller to speak for 2 to 2 1/2 hours
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:32 am to lsupride87
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And they didn't. The state to me didn't produced any evidence of any testing of why the shootings occurred. And since the burden of proof is on them to show that he murdered Smith not out of reasonable fear, I think he should walk
You're basing this off of tweets from someone in the courtroom?! Got dam you're dumber than I thought
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:34 am to jorconalx
quote:yes. I have stated multiple times I am only basing it off the tweets, which is a huge difference than being there. That is what we are all giving our opinions on you dumbass. That is all us message board jurors have to go off of. So should we just cancel this thread since none of us are there you needle dick prick?
You're basing this off of tweets from someone in the courtroom?! Got dam you're dumber than I thought
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 9:35 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:38 am to Lester Earl
Fuller will out dramaticize for sure, all he's got
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