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re: Will environmental conservation ever become important throughout the South?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:28 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:28 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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So if someone only hunts deer and ducks, they can’t be a conservationist?
If all they do is hunt them, no habitat management, no volunteering on projects, no.
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What about all of the other animals that eat your food plots/rice fields?
Planting food plots and rice just doesn't make you a conservationist, sorry. Nothing against rice and crawfish farmers, but the only reason they've been able to label their operations as "conservation" is due to the loss of high quality, natural wetlands.
And food plots by themselves are not a habitat improvement anyway. Most of them are nothing more than killing plots that concentrate deer and cause overbrowsing of the surrounding native vegetation.
Now, a guy planting food plots and managing the rest of his land as well...that's a conservationist.
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:31 pm to Jake88
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Kisatchie
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but, we fricked it up with our clear cutting and strip mining.
You do realize the only reason we have Kisatchie is because it was clearcut and left a barren wasteland by timber companies during the depression, right? If it weren't for the Great Depression, Kisatchie would probably still be loblolly pine plantations.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:32 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Now, a guy planting food plots and managing the rest of his land as well...that's a conservationist.
The vast majority do this, especially in the last 20 years or so. Leaving bedding habitat, prescribed burns, no kill food plots, year round forage, etc
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:32 pm to Aubie Spr96
To weagles point, that isn't exactly true. Large timber companies decimated the long leaf pine forest in AL. We had large forest that would have made an awesome national park/forest. Even today, the state allows timber investment firms to clear cut and plant those shite loblolly pines. Absolutely zero wildlife in those areas.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:33 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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4. Saltwater intrusion doesn’t kill marshes. Erosion kills marshes
Saltwater kills marshes. It kills the vegetation not adapted to the higher salinities, then, when salt-tolerant vegetation can't fill back in quick enough, the marsh erodes away.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:36 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Saltwater kills marshes. It kills the vegetation not adapted to the higher salinities, then, when salt-tolerant vegetation can't fill back in quick enough, the marsh erodes away.
The marshes in SELA have been covered in grass for decades
What you’re describing is saltwater intrusion into historically freshwater or dry land areas
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:38 pm to weagle99
Environmentalists and their hyper religious crusades.....
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:38 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
There's different types of marshes.
freshwater ones are the most biodiverse and are the life blood of our fishing ecosystem, they're the one that are getting screwed
freshwater ones are the most biodiverse and are the life blood of our fishing ecosystem, they're the one that are getting screwed
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:39 pm to FunroePete
In LA, swamp = freshwater and marsh = saltwater baw
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:40 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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The marshes in SELA have been covered in grass for decades
SELA isn't the only place that has marsh loss, Thib. Try to tell someone familiar with marshes in SWLA that saltwater doesn't kill marshes.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:40 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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In LA, swamp = freshwater and marsh = saltwater baw
Oh, now I get it, you're trolling.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:43 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Oh, now I get it, you're trolling.
Maybe y’all do it different in SWLA, but nobody here calls anything with fresh water marsh
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:44 pm to Cowboyfan89
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If all they do is hunt them, no habitat management, no volunteering on projects, no.
At a minimum, every time a hunter buys ammo or a new firearm he or she is contributing to wildlife conservation through adding to the Pittman-Robertson fund.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:48 pm to weagle99
Hunting raises lots of money for conservation.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:52 pm to upgrayedd
quote:is poor a demographic?
There's a certain demographic in the south that's responsible for all the garbage you see on the side of the road.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:53 pm to upgrayedd
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I'll be the bad guy.
There's a certain demographic in the south that's responsible for all the garbage you see on the side of the road.
Rednecks?????
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:54 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Maybe y’all do it different in SWLA, but nobody here calls anything with fresh water marsh
Well, I can't help it if ya'll can't recognize differences in marsh type, but there are 4 different types, and they occur across the coast.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:57 pm to theOG
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At a minimum, every time a hunter buys ammo or a new firearm he or she is contributing to wildlife conservation through adding to the Pittman-Robertson fund.
So does every recreational shooter. Still doesn't make them a conservationist anymore than buying a license does. It's a terrible argument invented to paint hunters as a whole in a better light, and looks ridiculous when you have slob hunters that trash up public areas.
The guys putting in time and money managing land and volunteering with conservation organizations/wildlife agencies are the real hunter-conservationists.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:58 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
CRMS site at Caernarvon FW Diversion This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:03 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Well, I can't help it if ya'll can't recognize differences in marsh type, but there are 4 different types, and they occur across the coast.
Well if you want to get technical, there are a lot more than 4 types of marsh
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