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Why would terrorist try to come over as a refugee?

Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:27 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:27 am
Would it not be easier to send some radical from Belgium or London as a tourist than try to hide amongst all these scrutinized refugees?

Just wouldn't make much sense. Why would they make it more difficult for themselves?
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:28 am to
because that is what Obama wants them to do... duh
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:28 am to
Because sending them in those sheer numbers alone, one would gather that some of them are going to get through. Just common sense.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:28 am to
You're thinking about this rationally so there's you're first mistake.

You're about a million times more likely to have a terrorist walk straight through customs at JFK than to import one as a refugee.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:29 am to
Many radicals with EU passports are actively tracked and it may be difficult for them to board a plane without a fake passport. They can get fake documents but they still have to walk through airports with cameras and security everywhere.

Much easier to be a nameless, faceless "refugee" who fled without documents.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Just wouldn't make much sense. Why would they make it more difficult for themselves?



They don't care, they just want to kill us so called infidels...
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 8:31 am
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:30 am to
becoz they want to kill our freedumb!!!

JK, I'm with you on this. Engineering student would seem to be the easiest technique. All these public colleges are dying for that big out of state tuition money, as their states slowly starve them of funding.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:32 am to
Why bother with 18 months of vetting to gain refugee status or even bothering with customs at JFK? What's stopping them from walking across the border like 20 million illegals have done over the past 20 or 30 years?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:33 am to
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You're about a million times more likely to have a terrorist walk straight through customs at JFK than to import one as a refugee.



This is because you guys are viewing the situation as it is at the moment, rather than as it is in other countries or as it might eventually be here.

Letting a trickle of refugees into America is probably no more dangerous than tourism or immigration generally. Taking a flood, as in, high 5 or 6 figures, is a much different matter.

At the end of the day, people don't trust Obama and this administration (or the competence of government, generally) to get this right. They're concerned, and POTUS is too busy trying to bust the chops of the other side while overseas to recognize that it is his fricking responsibility to assuage and respond to the concerns of the people he represents.

I don't think taking a reasonable amount of refugees is a serious threat, or more so than we already face. But I'm certainly not going to argue with people who don't trust the Obama administration on subjects like radical islam, immigration and foreign policy in general.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Would it not be easier to send some radical from Belgium or London as a tourist than try to hide amongst all these scrutinized refugees?

Just wouldn't make much sense. Why would they make it more difficult for themselves?


Man, they are about to jihad all over your arse with this sort of attitude.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:33 am to
Some of these sleepers aren't coming in for a "quick flip", so to speak. Coming in, living for free, and pulling together a larger team of radicals over the course of several years is much more effective.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:34 am to
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Would it not be easier to send some radical from Belgium or London

Or that Mississippi State couple - born here - who were arrested trying to join ISIS a few months ago. LINK
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 8:35 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Would it not be easier to send some radical from Belgium or London as a tourist than try to hide amongst all these scrutinized refugees?

Just wouldn't make much sense. Why would they make it more difficult for themselves?


Why does it have to be one or the other...why can't it be both? I think it is obvious they are taking a "by any means necessary" approach here.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:38 am to
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Why does it have to be one or the other...why can't it be both?


guess it could

but humans are generally lazy and go the easier route

Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:39 am to
Are you for reelz?

Dude, a passenger on an airline is much harder to get thru on fake credentials than someone walking (invited) with a group of 10k people. If the process sucks, you could pissi my get hundreds across quickly.

If they get stoppped, nothing lost.....but if they make it, then they all go visit family in DC
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:40 am to
There is no way of knowing who these people are. I really don't understand you libs position on this (or Islam in general)... It just makes no sense.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32395 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Would it not be easier to send some radical from Belgium or London as a tourist than try to hide amongst all these scrutinized refugees?

Just wouldn't make much sense. Why would they make it more difficult for themselves?


I made this point when talking to my friends the other day about this. It wouldn't make sense for them to come over as these refugees, when they could come over at any time as a tourist.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65687 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:44 am to
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hy would terrorist try to come over as a refugee?


to get that free guberment cheese !
Posted by Salmon
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83531 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:45 am to
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There is no way of knowing who these people are.


I'd say we have much more information on these people than some random Muslim coming from Europe

Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79128 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:47 am to
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I'd say we have much more information on these people than some random Muslim coming from Europe



I don't think there is any real basis for that, although I do think either route is probably of equal security risk.

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