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re: Why would anyone become a Doctor?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:35 am to CoyoteSong
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:35 am to CoyoteSong
The debt isn't that high but most of my doctor friends are not steering their kids to medicine. They said it has changed for the worse due to government/insurance companies.
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:37 am to Chicken
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They said it has changed for the worse due to government/insurance companies.
Yep
Only areas of medicine where costs are going down and patient satisfaction are up are with cash based medicine. Boutique primary care clinics, plastic surgery, etc
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:39 am to CoyoteSong
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Why would anyone become a Doctor?
It pays really well.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:42 am to kywildcatfanone
If I could go back and do it all again I would go to med school and become an ER physician
The on/off scheduling I could do would be awesome for my hunting/fishing/kids practice lifestyle
Yeh, the work may suck, but the older I get I realize all work sucks
The on/off scheduling I could do would be awesome for my hunting/fishing/kids practice lifestyle
Yeh, the work may suck, but the older I get I realize all work sucks
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:43 am to Cosmo
I grew up with a dad that was an old school doctor - literally did everything, and honestly don't think I've ever heard him speak negatively of medicine still to this day. Practiced at least in some capacity until he was 85 yo and he was easily sharp enough to know it was time to hang it up.
My view of my Dad and how he conducted himself in the profession was a big factor for me. I've been in practice since 1998, and you do "lose" some years, but I still look back very fondly on those "lost" years - particularly the bonds you create with those guys and gals in school and residency. I wouldn't trade it for anything - met my wife in residency and we have that shared experience and the people I practice with are some of my closest friends and have been for many years.
I've been around long enough to see big changes - move toward managed care, electronic health records, etc, but still love the profession. As much as anything because it is interesting every single day - doesn't matter if its in the OR or clinic, or whatever, something interesting is walking through the door. Not just my own specialty, but medicine in general.
It is an honest living and it makes one feel good to help people. It's hard to explain what it means for someone to really trust you, but when you get that and you honor that trust, there is a great feeling of satisfaction that comes with it. Don't really know another way to justify it for me.
My view of my Dad and how he conducted himself in the profession was a big factor for me. I've been in practice since 1998, and you do "lose" some years, but I still look back very fondly on those "lost" years - particularly the bonds you create with those guys and gals in school and residency. I wouldn't trade it for anything - met my wife in residency and we have that shared experience and the people I practice with are some of my closest friends and have been for many years.
I've been around long enough to see big changes - move toward managed care, electronic health records, etc, but still love the profession. As much as anything because it is interesting every single day - doesn't matter if its in the OR or clinic, or whatever, something interesting is walking through the door. Not just my own specialty, but medicine in general.
It is an honest living and it makes one feel good to help people. It's hard to explain what it means for someone to really trust you, but when you get that and you honor that trust, there is a great feeling of satisfaction that comes with it. Don't really know another way to justify it for me.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:44 am to kywildcatfanone
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It pays really well.
That depends on what kind of doctor you are. The higher paying doctors will hold true to the original post.
Most doctors make the same as a good tech job and less to someone in a good business job.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:48 am to The Third Leg
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Surgeons are ego maniacs, psychopaths, and sociopaths.
I have an M.D. from Harvard, I am board certified in cardio-thoracic medicine and trauma surgery, I have been awarded citations from seven different medical boards in New England, and I am never, ever sick at sea. So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall on their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death or that their mother doesn't suffer acute neural trama from postoperative shock, who do you think they're praying to? Now, go ahead and read your Bible, Dennis, and you go to your church, and, with any luck, you might win the annual raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was in operating room number two on November 17, and he doesn't like to be second guessed. You ask me if I have a God complex. Let me tell you something.
I AM GOD.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:49 am to CoyoteSong
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You now have over a million dollars in student loan debt
Really, a million dollars? I know a lot of doctors who have a lot of student loan debt. But not a single one even approaches a million.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:49 am to CoyoteSong
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Why would anyone become a Doctor?
I have a friend who is a Urologist that lives on the lake in a Million Dollar house with a hot wife. He'd definitely do it again...but probably because he likes looking at dicks. At least, that's what I keep telling him.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:50 am to CoyoteSong
OP exaggerates but I do believe being a doctor is not what it once was. We have a lot of doctors in the family, including my wife. We did not encourage any of our children to go to medical school. Most doctors are now employees of large medical systems and have little control over their work life, have to battle insurance companies regarding approved procedures and reimbursement for care, and are rated by patients like washing machines in Yelp reviews when those same patients don't think twice about failing to show up for an appointment.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:51 am to CoyoteSong
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My golf buddy is a doctor. He will retire at 75. All I hear about is complainants about his job and his debt.
He just sounds like a whiny, irresponsible bitch.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:53 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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I grew up with a dad that was an old school doctor
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Practiced at least in some capacity until he was 85 yo
Screw that!
I would rather retire at 50 or 55.
Most doctors work in their 70’s and 80’s because they have to.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:56 am to CoyoteSong
If you are smart enough to get an MD, it always makes financial sense to do so.
When a doctor’s practice is properly structured and managed, it can be very lucrative. In addition, you are helping your fellow citizens and society.
Most would say the best years are 40-55. Doctors are in prime position to enjoy those years more than any other profession.
When doctors are paired with good accountants and financial planners, the end results are always positive.
MDs have a fleet of patients that will wait on the MD for their service. I wish my lobby was full of people waiting to see me.
Of course, there are headaches….but that is with any occupation.&
When a doctor’s practice is properly structured and managed, it can be very lucrative. In addition, you are helping your fellow citizens and society.
Most would say the best years are 40-55. Doctors are in prime position to enjoy those years more than any other profession.
When doctors are paired with good accountants and financial planners, the end results are always positive.
MDs have a fleet of patients that will wait on the MD for their service. I wish my lobby was full of people waiting to see me.
Of course, there are headaches….but that is with any occupation.&
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:56 am to CoyoteSong
They like helping people. It’s really not about the money when a internal medicine once a doc is 65+.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:57 am to CoyoteSong
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I would rather retire at 50 or 55.
Most doctors work in their 70’s and 80’s because they have to.
I know some that have to, and I know some that want to. You can tell the difference in very short order.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:57 am to CoyoteSong
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Most doctors work in their 70’s and 80’s because they have to.
naw, keeps you alive, certainly keeps the brain in gear, some people just don't do well sitting idle or being on permanent vacation, I planned and was prepared to go at 55, took a leave before I pulled the plug to test the waters, too early, now I'm of the mindset that I'm going to keep doing something professionally(approaching mandatory retirement,) until I can't, even with continuing to work I have plenty of time to travel and do whatever the old lady and I want to
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:01 am to CoyoteSong
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You now have 500k in student loan debt and you get to waste 30-90k every year on malpractice insurance.
My surgeon BIL paid that $500K in student loan debt off in about 2 years out of residency. I think he'll make it lol.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:03 am to CoyoteSong
I’m not sure. I’d just rather go and work in a refinery, and get cancer one day, then have to go to one of these doctors.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:04 am to TigerstuckinMS
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Now, go ahead and read your Bible, Dennis, and you go to your church, and, with any luck, you might win the annual raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was in operating room number two on November 17, and he doesn't like to be second guessed. You ask me if I have a God complex. Let me tell you something.
I AM GOD.
No, you are a moron and an idiot.
I heard a car mechanic make this exact same statement.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:06 am to 777Tiger
quote:Why don't more older guys who have the desire switch to a cash-based practice late in their careers?
naw, keeps you alive, certainly keeps the brain in gear, some people just don't do well sitting idle or being on permanent vacation, I planned and was prepared to go at 55, took a leave before I pulled the plug to test the waters, too early, now I'm of the mindset that I'm going to keep doing something professionally(approaching mandatory retirement,) until I can't, even with continuing to work I have plenty of time to travel and do whatever the old lady and I want to
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