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Why would anyone become a Doctor?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:16 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:16 am
First, yes I am glad there are good doctors out there when needed.
Now that is out of the way why would anybody choose to be a doctor unless you just want to help people. 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of med school, 5 years of residency. Congratulations, now you are 32 years old and out of residency making your full salary. You just wasted the absolute best years of your life studying and working your butt off. You will never get these years back ever again. You now have 500k in student loan debt and you get to waste 30-90k every year on malpractice insurance. You continue to work long hours and even take call through all hours of the night and holidays. And you will not retire early but instead work well into your 70’s. Even the prestige is not even close to what it use to be. And the current patient population can pull out a smart phone and in seconds challenge your million dollar opinion. Doctors have a much higher divorce rate and are some of the most miserable people I have ever met.
There are so many high paying jobs out there that you can go to school for less years, accumulate less debt, work less hours, have a better quality of life, and retire early.
Now that is out of the way why would anybody choose to be a doctor unless you just want to help people. 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of med school, 5 years of residency. Congratulations, now you are 32 years old and out of residency making your full salary. You just wasted the absolute best years of your life studying and working your butt off. You will never get these years back ever again. You now have 500k in student loan debt and you get to waste 30-90k every year on malpractice insurance. You continue to work long hours and even take call through all hours of the night and holidays. And you will not retire early but instead work well into your 70’s. Even the prestige is not even close to what it use to be. And the current patient population can pull out a smart phone and in seconds challenge your million dollar opinion. Doctors have a much higher divorce rate and are some of the most miserable people I have ever met.
There are so many high paying jobs out there that you can go to school for less years, accumulate less debt, work less hours, have a better quality of life, and retire early.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:49 am
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:18 am to CoyoteSong
all of my friends that are doctors seem to live pretty good lives 
they have frustrations, of course, but only 1 has ever suggested he wouldn't do it again
he suggested this as he was swimming in his $100k pool
they have frustrations, of course, but only 1 has ever suggested he wouldn't do it again
he suggested this as he was swimming in his $100k pool
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:19 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:18 am to CoyoteSong
I've got a lot of good friends that are doctors.
They seem to enjoy their lives.
They seem to enjoy their lives.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:19 am to CoyoteSong
It is becoming a poor career decision each day. The modern physician has little autonomy, except that he/she is left holding the flaming bag of dogshit when things go poorly.
I’ve never been to the doctor’s office and seen anyone with a wad of money or a limitless charge card paying the bill. However there does seem to an unlimited demand as nobody actually believes in paying for services such as these anymore.
I’ve never been to the doctor’s office and seen anyone with a wad of money or a limitless charge card paying the bill. However there does seem to an unlimited demand as nobody actually believes in paying for services such as these anymore.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:21 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:19 am to CoyoteSong
Found the dropout.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:21 am to CoyoteSong
Exactly, this is why I chose to be an Applebee’s manager instead.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:21 am to CoyoteSong
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Congratulations, now you are 32 years old and out of residency making your full salary. You just wasted the absolute best years of your life studying and working your butt off.
The residents that I have met party pretty hard.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:22 am to CoyoteSong
You’re a moron. Surgeons are ego maniacs, psychopaths, and sociopaths. Many would probably be serial killers if not doctors.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:23 am to CoyoteSong
I mean, they make a pretty damn good living.
And is the "over a million dollars in debt" an accurate statement? I honestly have no idea.
And is the "over a million dollars in debt" an accurate statement? I honestly have no idea.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:23 am to brewhan davey
i like making fun of my resident friends by saying i make way more $ than them... knowing they will be making about 3x what i make in a few years
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:26 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:24 am to CoyoteSong
I think most people dont consider it to be all downhill from 32.
Do you know what someone in good health, educated, with a doctor's earnings can do if they pay off their loans in 5 or 6 years out of med school?
Being a doctor is playing the long game. And im sure glad as frick they are out there.
Do you know what someone in good health, educated, with a doctor's earnings can do if they pay off their loans in 5 or 6 years out of med school?
Being a doctor is playing the long game. And im sure glad as frick they are out there.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:24 am to CoyoteSong
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Congratulations, now you are 32 years old and out of residency making your full salary.
Residency was fun as hell for me
4th year of medical school was also a year long party
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:25 am to CoyoteSong
The grass always seems greener, doesn't it?
It's not an uncommon trait (envy.) I knew of one doc that would go into a rant about how good these tradesmen have it because they get off at 5 o'clock and can just sit on their porch and drink a beer - not having a care in the world.
The truth is you have to pick a profession that you'll enjoy or at the very least not hate. It's where a person will spend the majority of his/her life. It matters more than any other decision you'll make other than the person you choose to marry.
I can think of far, FAR, worse professions than becoming a physician.
It's not an uncommon trait (envy.) I knew of one doc that would go into a rant about how good these tradesmen have it because they get off at 5 o'clock and can just sit on their porch and drink a beer - not having a care in the world.
The truth is you have to pick a profession that you'll enjoy or at the very least not hate. It's where a person will spend the majority of his/her life. It matters more than any other decision you'll make other than the person you choose to marry.
I can think of far, FAR, worse professions than becoming a physician.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:27 am to CoyoteSong
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You now have over a million dollars in student loan debt
An exaggeration for the most part. Yes, you will have significant student loan debt. I don't think the $300K range is unusual, and many may have higher.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:29 am to CoyoteSong
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This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:29 am to Mo Jeaux
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Yes, you will have significant student loan debt. I don't think the $300K range is unusual, and many may have higher.
A lot of primary care job contracts include paying off your debt up to a limit
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:30 am to CoyoteSong
You get to screw Phylicia Rashad in a fancy Brooklyn Heights townhouse.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:31 am to CoyoteSong
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Congratulations, now you are 32 years old and out of residency making your full salary.
On average $250k so not bad.
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You just wasted the absolute best years of your life studying and working your butt off.
I'd argue 30s are better than 20s. You are still a kid in your 20s.
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You now have over a million dollars in student loan debt and you get to waste 30-90k every year on malpractice insurance.
$1 million in student debt if you went to private institutions. Also, most doctors work for hospitals. Hospitals will pay the malpractice insurance as a benefit to lure more doctors in.
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There are so many high paying jobs out there that you can go to school for less years, accumulate less debt, work less hours, have a better quality of life, and retire early.
Unless you get into upper management at big companies, most people will never touch a doctor's salary. Especially the specialists.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:33 am to Odinson
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Found the dropout.
Actually I am the last part of the original post. I will retire at 50 and I am not working very hard now. My golf buddy is a doctor. He will retire at 75. All I hear about is complainants about his job and his debt. Have an older buddy with a daughter that is premed. I shook my head and told him my thoughts. He was shocked. He said 32 years old and 300-500k in debt? He was shocked. I told him there are other great jobs out there.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:50 am
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