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re: Why won't auto manufacturers make it easy to change the oil on a vehicle?

Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:02 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:02 am to
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If those cars aren't rusted through, a person could restore it. In 40-50 years, the car I'm driving is going to be 40% brittle plastic that's going to require complete replacement and its doubtfull anyone would be producing those parts to where they'd be readily available.


Refresh my memory, you drive a Tahoe or a VW TDI right? Who would want to restore either of those in 50 years anyway? I mostly agree with your points though.

I think there will be a market to restore some cars, but it will be just like it is now. It isn't cheap or easy to restore classic cars now. Quality parts aren't super easy to come by IMO.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:06 am to
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Vehicles last longer and are more reliable today than they've ever been



Posted by KG6
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:13 am to
What do you mean, I'm pretty sure in 30 years people will think that drivers of jettas were bad arse . I more meant a mustang from 2014 will not hold up for restoration like one from 1970. They may look good and perform well, but they've got a 10-15 year lifespan.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:22 am to
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I more meant a mustang from 2014 will not hold up for restoration like one from 1970. They may look good and perform well, but they've got a 10-15 year lifespan.


As an owner of a 2014 5.0, I'm going to disagree with you. I've been around Mustangs pretty much since I knew what cars were, and the fit and finish on the newest ones is without a doubt the best ever. These cars are every solid. It will easily last many decades unless someone decides to wrap it around a tree.

Like most things in life, if you take care of it, it will last.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 8:23 am
Posted by Buck_Rogers
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:25 am to
Get a Toyota Tacoma with the V6. Easiest oil change you will ever do.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:25 am to
The metals they use today will outlast anything from the 70s, car used to rust out within 10 year
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:28 am to
and besides, the reason cars are made out of plastic today is because of safety. the "crumple zone" stuff saves lives

the vast majority of cars that theoretically had a longer shelf life (of its shell, at least) don't exist anymore, either. why? they were junk. trying to build cars for the oft chance that super rare/valuable cars can last 50 years is ridiculous, especially in light of all the lives saved by improved safety

so even assuming the small point is correct, it is not a point worth arguing in the big picture
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:28 am to
Not to mention the paint is inferior by far, today.

(Horrible sentence but I am not changing it.)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:29 am to
i don't doubt that, but i'm guessing the paint difference is due to chemicals in the old paint that are unsafe around humans
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:30 am to
Well, don't eat it and you should be fine.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:56 am to
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Get a Toyota Tacoma with the V6. Easiest oil change you will ever do.


^This. So easy that a monkey could do it. Now if they just would have put a dipstick in the transmission to check the level. But still, changing that fluid isn't hard to do.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:06 am to
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Get a Toyota Tacoma with the V6. Easiest oil change you will ever do.


correct. I installed a Fumoto drain valve in mine and ran a hose from the nipple at the bottom of the oil filter cup to the drivers side wheel well.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:30 am to
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I installed a Fumoto drain valve in mine and ran a hose from the nipple at the bottom of the oil filter cup to the drivers side


Never have used the Fumoto, but have heard good things about them. I like the hose idea, but I just use a 20oz drink bottle and jam it in the hoses.

Any experience with speed bleeders that supposedly make brake bleeding a one person job?
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:49 am to
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I installed a Fumoto drain valve in mine


thanks for the tip! I changed the oil in my 07 Yukon and made a small mess when removing the drain bolt. sucker overshot my catch pan. I'll look to see if there is a similiar drain valve for my Yukon.

I concede the spill was a rookie move.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:50 am to
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Never have used the Fumoto, but have heard good things about them.
never use a wrench again for an oil change.


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like the hose idea, but I just use a 20oz drink bottle and jam it in the hoses.
i think we've discussed this before. The hose under the oil filter cup is permanent and all i have to do is turn the wheels to the left and the bottle sits on the ground and the oil from the filter drains into it. Screw jamming a bottle down pas tthe fan shroud each tile i did an oil change.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:51 am to
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thanks for the tip! I changed the oil in my 07 Yukon and made a small mess when removing the drain bolt. sucker overshot my catch pan. I'll look to see if there is a similiar drain valve for my Yukon.
there is a Fumoto for any vehicle and cheap as well. LINK
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:52 am to
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never use a wrench again for an oil change.


Like that! How far into the pan does the Fumoto extend - otherwise, does it get all of the oil out?

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i think we've discussed this before

You may be right, sir!
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:57 am to
My '77 300D is pushing close to 700k miles. Suck on my balls, new cars.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:20 pm to
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Like that! How far into the pan does the Fumoto extend - otherwise, does it get all of the oil out?

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every oil pan has a bung that is threaded . The valve is the same thickness as the bung so yes,you get it all out just like factory.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:36 pm to
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I would say this is pretty much bullshite in general and you got really lucky if that is the case. Engine oil ends up with a lot of trash in it in general, hence the reason for the filter. To change the filter, you would lose enough oil to go ahead and drain it all. If you haven't changed the filter, then you are really lucky you haven't blown up an engine.


Probably am just lucky and why I said I wasn't suggesting it. It's just what his dad told me and I haven't done anything more than add oil from time to time. Never drained it. Never changed a filter. Like you said, probably just lucky, but got lucky twice so far. Believe me, I find it just as odd because it runs contrary to everything I've been told for years and to what little bit I know.
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