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re: Why won't auto manufacturers make it easy to change the oil on a vehicle?
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:04 pm to SEClint
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:04 pm to SEClint
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you're paying far too much than what you're getting in return.
Did anyone claim to break even or turn a profit by operating a vehicle?
ETA: And what are you talking about with this cheaper materials nonsense? Do you remember what cars where like in the 80s and 90s?
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:06 pm to LNCHBOX
frick the 80s and 90s and if you like losing money on the decisions you make that's on you.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:06 pm to SEClint
Sweet comeback.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:07 pm to SEClint
What cars have you turned a profit driving?
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:07 pm to SEClint
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Cars are made with fricking plastics, and for fricks sake if a computer goes out in one..and the imports likeMercedes and bmw, not overpriced at all to fix something simple.
Overpriced for cheaper materials, and that's what is true.
Think about safety, dude. We'd have twice as many casualties if we all drove those solid tanks from the 60s. Bumpers and dashboards are made of "cheap" materials for a reason.
Now, some materials could still be better, but the inside of my 06 Accord looks almost flawless after 200K. And I paid 25K for this car.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:07 pm to SEClint
My 83 RX-7 had the oil filter right by the brake booster when you opened the hood, mounted on a remote cooler. You couldn't ask for easier oil changes.
Then you have the early model Saturns, where the filter is on the back of the motor, in as about a hard a spot to get to laying on your back in the driveway as they could have made possible. I got some pretty nice burns on my arms changing the oil in those ill-handling, unreliable turds.
Then you have the early model Saturns, where the filter is on the back of the motor, in as about a hard a spot to get to laying on your back in the driveway as they could have made possible. I got some pretty nice burns on my arms changing the oil in those ill-handling, unreliable turds.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:08 pm to LNCHBOX
I own a horse and a lawnmower.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:09 pm to SEClint
None of that changes the fact that 30 years ago a vehicle with 100k miles was ready for junk yard
Not to mention the rust buckets of the 70's
Not to mention the rust buckets of the 70's
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:13 pm to yellowfin
I'm biased and semi sunday trolling. grew up working on and restoring cars from the 40's and 50s with my grandfather.
The only car I really like from the 70s is a 1970 chevelle.
The only car I really like from the 70s is a 1970 chevelle.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:39 pm to yellowfin
True. A good Diesel engine isn't even good and broke in until about 70k miles. They can get you 300k easily with good maintenance.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:41 pm to SEClint
Well........eff you too!
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:42 pm to Bootycall
My 07 scion tc is super easy. You don't even have to jack it up. Just stick your head under the front bumper, reach your arm back and unscrew the plug. The filter is right in front of the pan too.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:55 pm to motorbreath
Once the warranty gives out on my vehicles I do all the maintenance on them unless it requires a special tool or electrical like the power mode.
People now a days would rather take it to a dealership and bitch about the price and wait time while drinking coffee instead of owning mechanic tools and doing it themselves.
People now a days would rather take it to a dealership and bitch about the price and wait time while drinking coffee instead of owning mechanic tools and doing it themselves.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:56 pm to Bootycall
Ummm...it isn't hard. Are you a woman?
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:57 pm to bulldog95
It's hard for millenials to own mechanic tools in their 2 BR apartments.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:04 pm to LNCHBOX
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ETA: And what are you talking about with this cheaper materials nonsense? Do you remember what cars where like in the 80s and 90s?
Toyota certainly used higher quality interior materials in the 80s/90s than they do today. They were also farther ahead of the competition reliability-wise then than they are now--they haven't declined, necessarily, but they haven't improved as much as the rest.
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:06 pm to just1dawg
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Toyota certainly used higher quality interior materials in the 80s/90s than they do today.
No. As someone who has owned Toyota vehicles from 1996 to 2013, I'm just going say no. Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:11 pm to yellowfin
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Vehicles last longer and are more reliable today than they've ever been
absolute truth...there used to be "tune up" shops on every corner...now there are none...hell, you don't even have to change the spark plugs in the average vehicle but once during its life...
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:18 pm to Spankum
To the OP's original point, I do agree that some things could be easily done to facilitate easier oil changes...
first thing that comes to mind would be to install a quarter-turn ball valve on both the transmission and engine oil pans to allow you just to open the valve to drain oil...
first thing that comes to mind would be to install a quarter-turn ball valve on both the transmission and engine oil pans to allow you just to open the valve to drain oil...
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