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re: Why won't auto manufacturers make it easy to change the oil on a vehicle?

Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:30 pm to
Most automobiles from the 70's and 80's were gigantic pieces of shite. Just a bunch of shite pieced together by dudes that didn't give a fvck.

I've spent many an hour under the hood of those dung heaps.

These days... most cars don't need a tune up til they're over 100k miles. It's pretty incredible.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:33 pm to
Tacomas are easy...so are just about every other common maintenance tasks
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 8:34 pm
Posted by MrBobDobalina
BRo.LA
Member since Oct 2011
3044 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:34 pm to
My truck has a flap cut into the wheel well to allow super easy access to the oil filter, without that it would be just about un-accessable. Came from the factory that way
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 8:57 pm to
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Tacomas are easy...so are just about every other common maintenance tasks



Tacomas are a about the easiest there is. Tundras however... are a major pain in the arse.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
145431 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Changing oil is ray in all the cats I've owned
is this jive talk?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56729 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Changing oil is ray in all the cats I've owned

is this jive talk?


Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:33 pm to
What vehicles are we talking about? I don't have anything newer than a '09 but It's plenty easy to change the oil on.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48934 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

frick the 80s and 90s and if you like losing money on the decisions you make that's on you.


Do you ride around in a conestoga wagon behind a mule?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25489 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 9:48 pm to
Had a buddy whose dad was an executive for a manufacturer. Said he never changed his oil because it was just a BS story that it has to be done. Just need to add fresh oil now and then.

Not suggesting anyone else do it, but I hadn't changed the oil in my Ford for the last 150,000 miles before I sold it and had no problems. Either I'm really lucky or the need to actually change the oil is BS. Haven't changed the oil in wife's car in about 75,000 or so but she doesn't put as many miles on it.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12177 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:01 pm to
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All they would have to do is make the oil drain spout and filter easily accessible where just about anyone could do it.



What kind of vehicle are you referring to? My Jeep is rally fricking easy, my F150 is really fricking easy, My Chevy's have all been really fricking easy, my Range Rover was really fricking easy. It was literally a 9/16 or 5/8 wrench and 10 minutes to change them all.

My dad's Ecoboost F150 is a little tougher because you have to pull a small cover off to get to it but it is still easy from there.

If you say a Ferrari or something, then yeah, it is tough with a mid-mount engine given you have to pull the engine out in my understanding of it. That is one of the big reasons why people buying vintage 80s, Magnum PI, Ferraris find themselves selling them quickly. It costs crazy money to do simple maintenance.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432260 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:11 pm to
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Now it's the opposite, made with plenty of cheap material and not made to last.

what time frame are you using as an example of cars that lasted longer?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:13 pm to
Ever been to Cuba?

It's awesome if you're a fan of the old ones.

This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 10:16 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
78732 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

 got some pretty nice burns on my arms changing the oil in those ill-handling, unreliable turds.


Why are you changing the oil when the engine is hot?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:19 pm to
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Do you ride around in a conestoga wagon behind a mule?


Does your mother count? If so, sometimes.

Jk but no, I don't.


In all seriousness, I'd much rather have a new Ferrari 458 than a bel air
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 10:22 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432260 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:23 pm to
all of those cars have had major work done for decades, though. i don't see how that pic shows anything about longevity
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 10:24 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:32 pm to
They were made in the 40s and 50s and still everyday roadworthy because the owners can take care of them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432260 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:44 pm to
i seriously doubt much of anything beneath the surface of those cars was made in the 40s/50s
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12177 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Had a buddy whose dad was an executive for a manufacturer. Said he never changed his oil because it was just a BS story that it has to be done. Just need to add fresh oil now and then.

Not suggesting anyone else do it, but I hadn't changed the oil in my Ford for the last 150,000 miles before I sold it and had no problems. Either I'm really lucky or the need to actually change the oil is BS. Haven't changed the oil in wife's car in about 75,000 or so but she doesn't put as many miles on it.


I would say this is pretty much bullshite in general and you got really lucky if that is the case. Engine oil ends up with a lot of trash in it in general, hence the reason for the filter. To change the filter, you would lose enough oil to go ahead and drain it all. If you haven't changed the filter, then you are really lucky you haven't blown up an engine.

Engine oil starts out reasonably opaque and ends up burnt and black. Burnt and black oil isn't good for an engine. 3000 miles is a joke and over maintenance, but not bad by any means. You can realistically get 5k to 10k miles between oil changes.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15332 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:44 pm to
I have a 46 year old car that I have owned for 30 years. I can probably take the engine out and put it back in and have it running again in an hour
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 10:46 pm to
I have a car that's almost 50 years old. If it were driven every day, it would be in the shop every month or so.

My moms 2015 car can park itself.

Shut up
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