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re: Why the broken windows theory of policing always works
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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33 grams of cocaine and fentanyl with an approximate street value of $3,300;
I personally did more than this at WSP Savannah last Friday/Saturday.
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LEO shouldn't be able to pull him over for that.
Well that will make it a whole lot more difficult to catch criminals breaking the law. I’m not in favor of that.
I support this law. But good luck changing it.
I also break laws. I accept the consequences for what happens when I get caught. My family knows not to bring their weed into my car when I’m speeding. This seems like a pretty wise policy that respects my desire to remain free. My family and friends also respect me enough to help keep me out of jail. I wish everyone had friends and family like I do.
I may be biased though. I’ve never been caught breaking a law I disagreed with.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
This is an example the tinted window theory of policing.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:12 pm to Old Money
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I think most peoples issue is being given a fix it ticket for window tint when you’re otherwise a well adjusted law abiding citizen.
If you put illegal window tint on your car, are you a law abiding citizen?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
It works great. THe problem is it causes incredible distrust of the police, even for law abiding citziens. Most people get puckered a bit if a cop is behind them today.
Its one of the reasons public perception switched from "Servea and protect" with friendly neighborhood officers to militarized groups looking for any reason to pull you over.
That's a pretty big tradeoff, liberty for perceived safety. Its also a classic example.
Its one of the reasons public perception switched from "Servea and protect" with friendly neighborhood officers to militarized groups looking for any reason to pull you over.
That's a pretty big tradeoff, liberty for perceived safety. Its also a classic example.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
Window tint laws are dumb. If police can ride around with blacked out cruisers so can anyone else. Officer safety my arse
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
Cops could reduce crime by 75% just by arresting everyone who drives a Nissan or Charger
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That's a pretty big tradeoff, liberty for perceived safety. Its also a classic example.
I can tell you the citizens of St Bernard very much support their sheriff’s office and are very fearful of the crime spilling over from New Orleans. And I promise you the cops already knew this guy and/or were tipped off by an informant.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:52 am to Old Money
Then don't knowingly violate a law.
Violate a law?
Accept the consequence.
Don't violate a law?
Proceed with your day.
There are no small laws.
If I violate a law, and I do, I will accept the punishment when cited.
Wtf is so difficult to understand?
Violate a law?
Accept the consequence.
Don't violate a law?
Proceed with your day.
There are no small laws.
If I violate a law, and I do, I will accept the punishment when cited.
Wtf is so difficult to understand?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:37 am to SCLibertarian
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Why should this be a crime? Blacked out windshields don't affect other drivers, so this has absolutely nothing to do with "public safety".
Over-tinting makes it difficult/impossible for drivers to see through the over-tinted vehicle in front of them and see the brake lights of the cars up ahead. Try driving and not being able to see trough the car in front of you. It’s certainly a public safety issue.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:43 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:19 am to LSUFanHouston
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so this dude was a convicted felon with a stolen altered gun, who had a small pharmacy of illegal drugs... busted... not because of some great federal task force investigation or someone turning a snitch... but because an officer saw illegal window tint.
More likely they used the tint as an excuse to pull him over because they couldn't or didn't want to use the real evidence they had.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:31 am to LSUFanHouston
It's called "profiling". My best friend is a cop. He profiles all the time when we are out and about. We saw a car without it's lights on just after dark. He goes "that's a drunk driver. They don't have their lights on".
They absolutely profile for tint, failure to yield, lights burned out, lights not on etc etc. In hopes of stumbling onto a major offense.
The guy is an idiot for smoking while driving. Especially if he's selling.
They absolutely profile for tint, failure to yield, lights burned out, lights not on etc etc. In hopes of stumbling onto a major offense.
The guy is an idiot for smoking while driving. Especially if he's selling.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 7:32 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:31 am to LSUFanHouston
The deputy that stopped him is very lucky…
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:38 am to DoItDoug
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Wtf is so difficult to understand?
the difficult part is understanding why you are such a bootlicking bitch!!
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:06 am to LSUFanHouston
I thought smell/odor of marijuana was no longer something police could act on in Louisiana. Sounds like an illegal search and the perp will walk.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:07 am to jchamil
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forfeiting your freedom to stick it to black people
Seems slightly racist to just assume everyone driving around with tinted windshields and drugs are black people
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:14 am to LSUFanHouston
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containing 59 grams of marijuana with an approximate street value of $1,180,
So a little over 2 ounces of weed is worth $1,180? Damn inflation!
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:15 am to Willie Stroker
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They smelled an illegal substance.
More correctly, they claimed they smelled an illegal substance
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:17 am to Willie Stroker
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Irrelevant.
Not to this discussion of how things should be.
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Blame your lawmakers for creating bullshite crimes.
I do. Every day.
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Heck, blame them for not overturning bullshite crimes created by prior legislators.
I do. Every day.
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But blaming cops for doing their goddamn job is simply hardcore stupid to the bone.
Authoritarians abusing bad laws to exert power over the population to create an institutional standard? They have plenty of blame.
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Until then, it’s only your opinion.
This is a discussion thread about our police state; not oral arguments before a court.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:25 am to dakarx
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The vehicle must meet the laws for which it is licensed. Alabama allows tint to up 95% on all windows (except windshield), so vehicles tagged in Alabama driving in LA should not be cited.
The rule was 2 of 3 must match; DL, Tags, address of residence.
Where did you find that?
I looked at La's window tinting law covered in LSA-R.S. 32.361 and do not see any carve out in the statute for vehicles meeting the laws of the state where registered. Also looked at 361.1 through 361.3 and don't see it. Checked the La. Admin Code, Title 55 and don't see exceptions for out-of-state registered vehicles there either. Not saying you're wrong, but I just can't find it.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 9:26 am
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