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re: Why is the virus so much worse in the US?

Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:12 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:12 am to
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Truth be told we're also including NON tested but diagnosed based on symptoms too.


I haven't seen this.

I've been knee deep in this data from the beginning and look at models/statistics every day. Some people have PUIs in their data, but I haven't seen that passed off as positive for COVID once.

This isn't like the flu, they are dead serious about knowing who is and isn't positive because they want to track transmission/clusters.

Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17820 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:29 am to
We are a lot larger than Italy/Spain so it is of no surprise that we have a lot more confirmed cases then both of those countries.

So far, it looks like we are doing a pretty good job of handling the virus over here. Spain and Italy are getting the everloving shite kicked out of them over there. Over here, outside of a few states like New York, Louisiana, and New Jersey, we are faring quite well with the virus I believe.

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Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:13 am to
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No.


Yes

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Tests per million population:

USA - 5,397
Spain - 7,593
Italy - 11,436


Oh you are using percentages to invalidate my accurate comment. Just like the ops misunderstanding of reality. How many test have the US done in total vs the others?
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:19 am to
Leadership failure. Trump fiddled for 8 weeks while in denial about the possible consequences. Due to that, we didn’t get ahead of the spread with targeted quarantine and extensive testing. His denial led to rubes all around the nation refusing to take the disease seriously. Couple this with the fact that there was no centralized response due to Trump’s leadership failure, and here we are.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:20 am to
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Looking at the worldwide numbers we have over 200,000 cases more than Spain who is reporting the 2nd most cases


We flubbed initial testing efforts. But we've since corrected and are testing more than anyone else right now.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:21 am to
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Oh you are using percentages to invalidate my accurate comment. Just like the ops misunderstanding of reality. How many test have the US done in total vs the others?


Well that not fair. It would destroy their argument.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:22 am to
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This isn't like the flu, they are dead serious about knowing who is and isn't positive because they want to track transmission/clusters.



The mortality rate may ultimately be close to the flu, but the transmission is much more rapid - making it much more dangerous.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:35 am to
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Due to that, we didn’t get ahead of the spread with targeted quarantine and extensive testing.


No, we didn't get ahead with extensive testing because the CDC refused to use the WHO's test, wasted time developing there own, and it didn't even work correctly.

But of course Orange Man is Bad.

You TDS tards are something else.

Posted by Captain Ray
Member since Nov 2016
1589 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:50 am to
We have more people
we test more
we do NOT lie about what we find
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:55 am to
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Is this something that really needs to be explained to you? You couldn't have just though it out?

Go to FB, Twitter, reddit, etc. There are a lot of people out there who either don't understand this or are intentionally ignoring it. A lot of people are just looking at total numbers. For example I've seen some people talk about how they hope India won't end up as bad as the US.
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:19 pm to
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No, we didn't get ahead with extensive testing because the CDC refused to use the WHO's test, wasted time developing there own


Yeah, I’m sure that the CDC did that within a vacuum and the Trump administration had no idea. /s

Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14868 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:23 pm to
Because we aren't lying about our numbers like some
communist country in Asia with 1.8 billion people I could name....
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

CDC refused to use the WHO's test, wasted time developing there own
quote:

Yeah, I’m sure that the CDC did that within a vacuum and the Trump administration had no idea. /s



The CDC did not refuse any offer of test from the WHO. This was a false statement by Biden
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
29195 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:59 pm to
Because

A - media is bullshitting us
B - more testing
C - Election Year. They hate our President
D - Other countries are lying about their numbers
E - Our fake news media is lying about our numbers.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78046 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:00 pm to
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Yeah, I’m sure that the CDC did that within a vacuum and the Trump administration had no idea. /s
The US did not refuse tests from the WHO.

That was a lie spread by Biden.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21427 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

we aren't lying about our numbers

quote:

like some
communist country in Asia with 1.8 billion people

You sure you aren't lying about numbers?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:09 pm to
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Yeah, I’m sure that the CDC did that within a vacuum and the Trump administration had no idea.


Yes, in fact they did. I mean are you new to how government bureaucracies operate?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24963 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:42 pm to
It is not, China numbers are not even remotely real. Plus, they are only testing sick people and we have superior testing right now.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55457 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I’m sure that the CDC did that within a vacuum and the Trump administration had no idea. /s


Oh look! Another dumbass who believes brain dead retard Biden, who directly relayed China's lie.

Good work. Your intelligence level is on par with a retarded clapping seal.

Clap for me! Clap!
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:54 pm to
Compare per capita numbers not raw numbers.
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