re: Why is the job market so crappy right now?

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Maybe it's just an IT thing right now

Plenty of professions are still pretty desperate right now

Finding a job in your particular major might be difficult but plenty of jobs available until you can find exactly what you want

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lol no.


There is definitely something off about the job market in the past 24 months, especially for non entry level positions. On average an individual can expect to submit 100 applications per offer letter.

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quote:This is such a BS augment. I’m a software engineer by trade and I’ve been doing it 20 years. There is nothing I have seen so far from AI that can do the real grunt work of behind the scenes framework and services. We have a round table at work where we look at AI stuff (new and emerging) every week. It can be great for some simple stuff but if you try and write some semi complicated backend stuff it falls apart quickly. Right now it’s a parlor trick and new buzzword everyone knows. Anyone that has been in the industry for any length of time has seen things like this before with fancy buzzwords. AI cant and for the foreeseable future will never fully take the place of human programmers, but it certainly has reduced the demand. Small coding jobs that would normally have been given to an entry level programmer can easily be done by a few prompts. Wait till the new generation of LLMs come out, ChatGPT 5 and the like. You'll see demand take another huge drop.

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Disagree. My company has lots of engineers and we have had some layoffs the last few years but none of them were due to AI. We also have used AI in some of our projects like AI chatbot functionality but even doing that it still required engineers. I think lots of people think everyone touching a keyboard and knows a little Java is an engineer. They are analysts at best and kids with some computer knowledge at worst. They aren’t engineers. I have seen zero evidence in the industry of real deal engineers being replaced by AI and I have friends that work at all the big companies you have heard of. We are a long long way from that happening.

Must just be for the tech field

How many jobs and companies have they worked for in those 5 years?

If I see a resume for someone who doesn’t stay put for more than 4-6 years, I throw it in the trash.

"I remember when you could walk into any place and ask for a job the day of"

Yea that's BS. You couldn't just walk into a white collar Microsoft or Apple back in the day and say "Yes I want a VP of engineering or finance role. Someone give me it." and they be like "OKAY YOURE HIRED!!!"

And AI is still a buzz word. You have whole industries that are terrified to use it because they think their data will be shared (even though it doesn't have to be) or that it will make the wrong decision and they will be liable. Sure it can code softball type things, but highly integrated things that require a great deal of business acumen are still suited for a human

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As someone in the industry any engineer interviewing at a FANNG or Fortune 500 it is minimum 4-5 interviews. Most other lower engineer jobs expect at least 3.

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frick that if it’s not important enough to ask in the first two interviews then it’s not important at all. If a job tells me they have more than two interviews for a position, I’m out.

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there is no consequence to the business to have 50 programmers in India ripping out code at all hours

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Other than the code generally sucks arse

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