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re: Why is Eddie Vedder popular and Scott Stapp not?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:41 am to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:41 am to mmmmmbeeer
I saw creed this summer, they still rock and Scott sounded amazing
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:42 am to TigrrrDad
This might be one of the dumbest takes on this board.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:45 am to Snipe
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Nah, He's always been an aloof wing nut and matured into holier than thou liberal assclown.
He's widely considered one of the nicest guys in the music biz. If you don't like his politics, that's fine, I get it....but aloof he is not.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:47 am to Mo Jeaux
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Yep, just look at how grunge Layne was in this 1987 pic.
Look at how Psychedelic Rock Jimi was in 1965

Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:51 am to Meauxjeaux
I must have listened to PJ’s Ten more than any other album during HS and mostly liked their follow up album or two.
STP was awesome also.
I barely listened to Creed when they got popular as I shunned most of pop music culture. I think because Diddy/Puffy and the stuff that was mainstream.
STP was awesome also.
I barely listened to Creed when they got popular as I shunned most of pop music culture. I think because Diddy/Puffy and the stuff that was mainstream.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:03 am to Havoc
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Sure but by the time of Facelift in 89-90, he already had the grunge sound and look.
To me that was more just hard rock.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:07 am to RedHawk
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To me that was more just hard rock
this isn't regular hard rock
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:16 am to Nutriaitch
That's funny, Dead and Bloated was the first song that came to mind when you mentioned Core. Loved the rest also.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:16 am to Nutriaitch
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Nutriaitch
You missed the point of my post. Hint, read the post to which I was responding.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:18 am to RedHawk
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To me that was more just hard rock.
Yes, but definitely transitional in sound and appearance.
Regardless, and to the original point, Layne Staley and AIC were at the front end of the grunge movement along with a handful of others bands.
My original reply was in response to a list seeming to place him as later or less important than the others.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:20 am to Nutriaitch
I actually like all those songs you mentioned, and I couldn’t name them all off top of my head and had to go look when responding to your post earlier. Admittedly, I was never a big fanboy of STP, just liked them when it was playing, rarely sought it out. They just weren’t that big and don’t stick with the masses like Ten or Nevermind.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:44 am to The Third Leg
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They just weren’t that big and don’t stick with the masses like Ten or Nevermind.
I was in High School during that timeframe and STP got to be pretty big.
I wouldn't go as far as to say they dominated the era like someone else suggested, but they definitely weren't slouches.
Nothing from that era ever caught Nevermind as far as popularity, sales, and lasting impact.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:04 pm to Nutriaitch
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I was in High School during that timeframe and STP got to be pretty big. I wouldn't go as far as to say they dominated the era like someone else suggested, but they definitely weren't slouches.
They were popular, had some radio hits, but they weren’t a generational act. I hardly ever hear them played today and listen to a lot of stuff from that era. They were riding the wave of change from Metal and anything was selling.
Core was their biggest commercial success, and it is the 138th most sold album from the entire 1990s. A host of alternative/rock acts outperformed them, including GnR, Metallica, Red hot Chillipeppers, Blink 182, soundgarden, kid rock, offspring, no doubt, and Pearl Jam, whose second album sold as many as Core sold.
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Nothing from that era ever caught Nevermind as far as popularity, sales, and lasting impact.
Cobains suicide sold a lot of records.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:11 pm to The Third Leg
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Cobains suicide sold a lot of records.
I can't remember, but I don't think his suicide made them more popular. People didn't all of a sudden like their music because of it... When Nirvana went mainstream they instantly became popular and it seemed like when he committed suicide people were moving on to other bands.. Im not saying they were not as popular, its just that other bands were taking up space.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:20 pm to Meauxjeaux
One's the OG.
The other is Temu
The other is Temu
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Eddie performing in private for obama was an embarrassment.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:38 pm to Nutriaitch
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and once Alice In Chains found that grunge look and sound, they were simply better at it than the rest.
Huge AIC fan and they were my favorite "grunge" band at the time, but when the dust settled, it was clear that Cornell and Soundgarden were the best.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:39 pm to Corinthians420
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didnt realize so many people didn't like Vedder.
I know. I guess it is politics. Also he is the only one still alive. He got old enough that his fan base politics changed. So it’s cool to piss on him. Sort of.
Also, if your band was AIC, Nirvana, or Soundgarden you probably have always been pissed that he’s alive.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:39 pm to OweO
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I can't remember, but I don't think his suicide made them more popular. People didn't all of a sudden like their music because of it... When Nirvana went mainstream they instantly became popular and it seemed like when he committed suicide people were moving on to other bands.. Im not saying they were not as popular, it’s just that other bands were taking up space.
Nirvana’s In Utero album was not selling well when he died, it shot up the charts immediately after and the unplugged album was hugely popular; sales of Bleach and Nevermind increased a bunch too. Wal Mart wouldn’t sell In Utero because Rape Me and Nirvana wasn’t playing the commercial popularity game, they hated being mainstream. Kurt was a weirdo who was ill equipped for fame; they played hardly any shows coming off the success of Nevermind.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:29 pm to The Third Leg
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Cobains suicide sold a lot of records
that album was fricking MASSIVE when it dropped.
it was the number 1 album in about a dozen or so countries in late '91 and early '92
Teen Spirit was literally referred to as "the grunge national anthem" by Rolling Stone when they interviewed a still very much alive Kurt Cobain.
In Utero was #1 in quite a few countries in '93.
Kurt dying absolutely made it even bigger, but it was already fricking huge.
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