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re: Why hasn't a viral pandemic originated from India?

Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:04 pm to
As others have said, they have a large population of vegetarians. Of the ones that do eat meat, many don’t eat beef or pork.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:07 pm to
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Debatable


Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:30 pm to
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The word cholera is from Greek: ?????a kholera from ???? khole "bile". Cholera likely has its origins in the Indian subcontinent as evidenced by its prevalence in the region for centuries.[14]
The disease appears in the European literature as early as 1642, from the Dutch physician Jakob de Bondt's description it in his De Medicina Indorum.[71] (The "Indorum" of the title refers to the East Indies. He also gave first European descriptions of other diseases.)
Early outbreaks in the Indian subcontinent are believed to have been the result of poor living conditions as well as the presence of pools of still water, both of which provide ideal conditions for cholera to thrive.[72] The disease first spread by trade routes (land and sea) to Russia in 1817, later to the rest of Europe, and from Europe to North America and the rest of the world,[14] (hence the name "Asiatic cholera"[1]). Seven cholera pandemics have occurred in the past 200 years, with the seventh pandemic originating in Indonesia in 1961.[73]
The first cholera pandemic occurred in the Bengal region of India, near Calcutta starting in 1817 through 1824. The disease dispersed from India to Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and Eastern Africa.[74] The movement of British Army and Navy ships and personnel is believed to have contributed to the range of the pandemic, since the ships carried people with the disease to the shores of the Indian Ocean, from Africa to Indonesia, and north to China and Japan.[75] The second pandemic lasted from 1826 to 1837 and particularly affected North America and Europe due to the result of advancements in transportation and global trade, and increased human migration, including soldiers.[76] The third pandemic erupted in 1846, persisted until 1860, extended to North Africa, and reached South America, for the first time specifically affecting Brazil. The fourth pandemic lasted from 1863 to 1875 spread from India to Naples and Spain. The fifth pandemic was from 1881–1896 and started in India and spread to Europe, Asia, and South America. The sixth pandemic started 1899–1923. These epidemics were less fatal due to a greater understanding of the cholera bacteria. Egypt, the Arabian peninsula, Persia, India, and the Philippines were hit hardest during these epidemics, while other areas, like Germany in 1892 and Naples from 1910–1911, also experienced severe outbreaks. The seventh pandemic originated in 1961 in Indonesia and is marked by the emergence of a new strain, nicknamed El Tor, which still persists (as of 2018[77]) in developing countries.[78]



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Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:36 pm to
India has more vegetarians (500 million) than the rest of the world put together and a lot of these viral epidemics are caused by animals being slaughtered for consumption.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13437 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:49 pm to
If Cholera hasn’t killed them yet, this crap ain’t got a chance.

I’m pretty sure crapping right in the street and the beach is their biggest health concern and that ain’t set those suckers back yet.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:07 am to
Most of them are vegetarians. The rest eat chicken, goats , lamb, very little pork and no beef. they don’t eat weird animals.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34410 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:12 am to
Where is India in relation to the equator?

Where is Wuhan, China in relation to the equator? 85% of all influenzas have come from N. China, because temps of 86F or above renders a virus dormant
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In 1357, people for the first time called an epidemic in Florence, Italy influenza di freddo, which translates to “cold influence,” referring to the disease’s possible cause.

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Most influenza viruses that infect humans seem to originate in parts of Asia, where close contact between livestock and people creates a hospitable environment for mutation and transmission of viruses.

*The 1580 pandemic began in Asia during the summer, and then spread to Africa and Europe.
*In 1781, another pandemic struck. It arose in China, spread to Russia, Europe and North America over the next year
*The pandemic of 1830–1833 began in China, and then spread to the Philippines, India Indonesia, across Russia and Europe
*1957 Asian flu (caused by H2N2), which killed 1.1 million people worldwide
*Hong Kong flu of 1968 (H3N2), which killed 1 million people worldwide
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:12 am to
Here is a video that explains this very question clearly

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Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:16 am to
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even worse hygienic standards.

The Ganges is so full of bacteria from people bathing/pissing/shitting/polluting that there is an astronomical number of bacteriophages (organisms that eat bacteria) in the water.

Maybe some of the shite* lurking in the water eats coronavirus?



*the bacteria and viruses, not the actual turds floating down the river
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17819 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:27 am to
Indians dont eat Bat fried rice.
Indian Curry so spicy it probably kills most viruses.

But fr, I just checked the stats. They are controlling this very well. If the reports are accurate, they only have about 500 cases and 10 deaths. In a country that colossal, how do they contain it that well.

Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
1161 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:33 am to
To add onto what everyone else is saying about being largely vegetarian.. the way these viral plagues almost always get started is from animal viruses.

Viruses typically don't get any selective advantage from being more lethal, because that just means they kill their hosts faster and then they don't get to replicate anymore. But animal viruses aren't adapted for human hosts -- our immune system is pretty tame compared to a lot of animals out there. That's because there are disadvantages to having a super-aggressive and destructive immune system, and so species will typically try to get away with as tame an immune system as they can, depending on their patterns of behavior (sexual promiscuity being a big one). So when a virus that is adapted to an animal that has a crazy aggressive immune system (like a bat) mutates so that it can infect a human cell, it can be extremely virulent and dangerous for our tamer, less aggressive, less destructive immune system.

Luckily this sort of species-hopping event is rare, and it's even rarer for it to have human-to-human transmission. The consequence of that is that you need a ton of animal-human interaction to even occasionally get a dangerous virus that comes over and starts killing us. So an area that has more animal-human interactions will have more virus plagues emerge. That's why so many of our dangerous viruses came from animals that we raise in farms to eat. Whooping cough: pigs, flu: pigs and chickens, measles: cows, TB: cows.

So if you don't have a lot of close contact with animals that have aggressive immune systems, you're less likely to produce these plague-type viruses. That's also the big reason why when Europeans came to the new world, their plagues wiped out ~90% of native americans, but the new world didn't have any crazy aggressive plagues that wiped out Europeans: they didn't have livestock in the new world.
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:43 am to
I'm assuming climate and humidity play a large role. Much of the country is averaging high temps of 85+ over the whole year and humidity over 60% throughout the year.
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:02 am to
Vegetarians.

They deal in cholera not corona.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
24186 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:40 am to
Despite the population density they don't move around much or travel a lot. 90% of India probably never ventures more than a few miles from where they live. Many of them have a business of some type on side of the road and are there 24 hours a day... that's where they live.

In general they don't mix with animals. They don't have wet markets at all. Chicken, lamb, etc... come from producers outside the cities. Very little opportunity for species jumping.

Because of the way they grow up, eat, and the general conditions of India they have very strong immune systems. They are NOT soft like most Americans. They don't have medications lying around for every ailment... real or perceived. Strong population where the weak generally don't survive youth.


You just have to go visit to understand it.
Posted by Dooder73
Member since Mar 2020
608 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:30 am to
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Hindu nuffin



Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
2380 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:30 am to
Anti-malarial drugs?
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