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re: Why exactly are republicans in St Tammany against Casinos?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:30 am to tigahbruh
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:30 am to tigahbruh
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I'm a Republican and I'm all for people making their own choices.
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My choice is to oppose a known broken window attraction into my own community.
So your choice = preventing others from making their choice. So noble of you, especially in the context of your description.
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:34 am to Mariner
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You have a land based casino 25 miles away in the middle of a popular tourist destination. Is a high income tourist going to come to Louisiana to stay in Slidell?
Then you have all the casino resorts in Biloxi which is more accessible for Alabama, Florida, Georgia.
So who is left to visit? Someone from Houston? It's easier to go to Lake Charles, or they would rather go to New Orleans to do more in addition to the casino.
Long term it will gravitate to slums.
Yeah I think a casino on the NS is a terrible idea and the only people who will really benefit are the connected people who bought the land to sell towards the development. I bet the casino changes hands in a few years b/c it isn't that profitable.
My point above is just that if you support outlawing this, you're supporting big government and displaying an authoritarian streak. You just don't get to claim you believe in property rights or free trade anymore.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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My point above is just that if you support outlawing this, you're supporting big government and displaying an authoritarian streak. You just don't get to claim you believe in property rights or free trade anymore.
Local people voting what goes on in their local community isn’t exactly big government.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:39 am to Peepdip
Many years ago when they voted gambling out the parish my family's restaurant took a big hit. We had 3 machines in the bar area that made us $2k each every month. That was a noticeable loss for us in the 90s. That vote was due to old conservatives. There are a lot of issues that Louisiana could potentially move forward on but old conservatives have to die off first. We could have legal marijuana but we struggle to get to the corrupt politicians because old conservatives that still believe in reefer madness oppose it. All that being said, if you're going to have gambling you have to have a plan to keep the trash away. Lax security and nothing but penny slots isn't the formula for that.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:42 am to Peepdip
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Can someone fill me in? I keep seeing the casi-no! signs everywhere. Is it a religious thing? If Republicans think gambling is immoral then they can just…. not gamble. Seems pretty simple to me.
It brings in a certain undesirable element. There are proven studies showing an increase in crime, poverty and addiction.
Name a politician that successfully runs on a platform of increasing crime, poverty and addiction among their constituents.
These types of casinos do not attract wealthy gamblers. Their primary targets are local poor and elderly. The revenue does not benefit local economy as much as it does state coffers and corporate conglomerates that only spend money locally on billboards.
I have probably been to as many or more casinos as anyone on this board, so I am by no means anti-gambling. If I were a resident I would not want a casino in my parish. If I were a politician I would not want to run for re-election four years after it came to my parish because opponents would rip me apart on statistics.
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:42 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Local people voting what goes on in their local community isn’t exactly big government.
It is to the people who have their freedoms restricted
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:43 am to Peepdip
Casinos and gambling do not produce or make anything. They suck a large amount of money out of a community and send it to the state government or to their out of state owners. Very little of what they take in, stays in the community. Most of their "customers" are lower income people.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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My point above is just that if you support outlawing this, you're supporting big government and displaying an authoritarian streak. You just don't get to claim you believe in property rights or free trade anymore.
There’s nowhere gambling is not regulated. There’s no free reign on this stuff ANYWHERE. Hence, this sort of argument is basically meaningless.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:49 am to Peepdip
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republicans in St Tammany
Well they did vote multiple times for a corrupt Republican and now convicted gay child molester as Sheriff in the the past, so I guess anything that improves the parish looks suspicious to these people.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:58 am to Tshiz
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Bc they attract trash. This is a dumbass question
This didn't happen in Lake Charles, which surprised me.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:59 am to Y.A. Tittle
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There’s nowhere gambling is not regulated. There’s no free reign on this stuff ANYWHERE. Hence, this sort of argument is basically meaningless.
This isn't about the gambling part just the option to even entertain gambling as an option. Totally different level of government authority.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:02 am to the LSUSaint
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This didn't happen in Lake Charles, which surprised me.
Because Houston and the Golden Triangle fund our casinos.
Just like DFW funds the casinos in Shreveport.
Just like how out of state tourism funds Harrahs in Nola.
You need out of state funding to make it a net positive for your area. If not, you're just creating a tax of sorts on your own population. A casino in the NS is just going to be a vampire on the NS and surrounding areas and produce nothing net positive.
That's why the argument against casinos on the NS centers on "who is going to fund this casino?". You're going to get a NS version of Hollywood Casino from BR (aka ghetto as hell). Even LDL in BR is substantially less nice than its counterpart in LC.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Nah, the point is, the way casino gambling is structured, it’s all but an arm of the “state.” To say if you don’t want that set up where you live, that means you are somehow “for authoritarian government” is meaninglessly absurd outside of the most abstract possible theoretical discussion.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:20 am to AbitaFan08
quote:This is a simpleton's argument. St. Tammany voted for legalized sports betting. No one cares if people gamble, what we don't want is more casinos popping up in the parish. The brick and mortar and everything that involves is the problem.
But really, Republicans love to preach “freedom!” While inhibiting the rights of people to choose whether to gamble, smoke marijuana, drink before certain hours on Sundays, etc
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:27 am to Jake88
It’s going to be a low rent casino with a lower budget than both Lauberges, and that’s in today dollars. CasiNO!
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:28 am to the LSUSaint
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This didn't happen in Lake Charles, which surprised me.
People from Houston are not going to drive to St. Tammany. People in St. Tammany and very local areas are going to that casino. Anyone that wants a quality experience will go to a larger market. This clientele is largely going to be what you see at truck stop video poker places.
Think Greenville, MS casinos like Harlow and Trop. That’s what you are going to end up with. Look at Greenville and see if it has improved their community.
This post was edited on 11/14/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:37 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Think Greenville, MS casinos like Harlow and Trop. That’s what you are going to end up with. Look at Greenville and see if it has improved their community.
Sure as hell wouldn’t want to allow those people to make the choice to do that if they want to
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:42 am to NoSaint
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Sure as hell wouldn’t want to allow those people to make the choice to do that if they want to
Are they not being allowed to make a decision in St. Tammany?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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My point above is just that if you support outlawing this, you're supporting big government and displaying an authoritarian streak. You just don't get to claim you believe in property rights or free trade anymore.
The communist always tries to use your beliefs against you.
I didn't know local county/parish/borough government was the same as big government.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:12 am to Dog Tree
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Casinos and gambling do not produce or make anything.
Casinos produce jobs. Typically decent paying jobs.
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