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Why does it take so long to carry out the death penalty

Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:51 pm
Seems like it always takes 20+ years after these people’s convictions for it to actually go through. I understand there is appeals and all that other stuff, but if it’s determined that they’re guilty and the sentence is death why does it take so long to actually carry it out?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:53 pm to
Because there’s appeals and all that stuff.

Is there an arbitrary amount of time you’d like to cap appeals to?
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

It is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer,


- Benjamin Franklin
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3491 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:54 pm to
Lawyers file lots of motions that keep them getting paid and keeps their client alive
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:55 pm to
Appeals should be illegal in cases where we know for certain the person committed death penalty-worthy crimes

American courts are too slow and soft. Way too many extensions, appeals, etc
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26561 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:56 pm to
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there is appeals and all that other stuff


It’s not so much the appeals as it is all the other stuff.

quote:

Appeals should be illegal in cases where we know for certain the person committed death penalty-worthy crimes


I’d argue that it’s more important that the death penalty should be illegal in cases where we don’t know for certain the person committed death penalty-worthy crimes.

Given the number of cases overturned through the appeals process, especially with the advent of DNA testing, I’d hate to know how many people were put to death for a crime they didn’t commit.

Personally, I’d rather it take a while to kill a guilty guy if it means making sure we don’t kill an innocent guy.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:56 pm to
Did I say there should be a cap on the time for either of these things? Don’t be a jackass, I’m just asking a question.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145150 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:57 pm to
i believe the statistic is that we have been able to find 7% of people executed in this country where actually innocent after the fact. and we arent talking about like back in 1940. some of that 7% were executed in the 21st century in texas. if anything, what we do right now is failing in being completely sure
Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1504 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:57 pm to
The appellate process has saved the lives of many innocent people

This thread is kind of trollish. I feel like you’re fishing for responses.

Edit: responses that you already knew yourself, I meant.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Lawyers file lots of motions that keep them getting paid and keeps their client alive


Are you under the impression that there’s a bunch of wealthy people on death row hiring defense teams by the hour?

The overwhelming majority of death penalty work is done by salaried attorneys working for funded organizations. Practically all death penalty appellate work is done by the same.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40512 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:58 pm to
Anders Breivik is in a country club prison and is eligible for release in 21 years. Now that’s soft justice. The US justice system has its flaws, but it is one of the better ones worldwide.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:59 pm
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13237 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:59 pm to
Someone read on Facebook about the execution of the pos that dragged that black dude in Texas I see?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Did I say there should be a cap on the time for either of these things? Don’t be a jackass, I’m just asking a question.


You answered your own question, so I posed my own. Did it make you uncomfy?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:01 pm to
So the appeals process is what makes it take so long?
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:02 pm to
I think MS requires that the state defense for the accused appeals all the way to the MS Supreme Court before execution happens. And I also agree with Ben Franklin.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

i believe the statistic is that we have been able to find 7% of people executed in this country where actually innocent after the fact. and we arent talking about like back in 1940. some of that 7% were executed in the 21st century in texas. if anything, what we do right now is failing in being completely sure



I can't even fathom sitting in the electric chair about to die for a crime I didn't commit.

That's fricking sickening.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

So the appeals process is what makes it take so long?


Some states still technically have the death penalty but aren’t actually enacting it. That’s a separate discussion. But in states like Texas that are actively trying to execute people as quickly as legally possible? Yes.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 10:04 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40512 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:03 pm to
Agreed but sometimes these trigger interesting discussion nonetheless
Posted by TrimTab
North County Coastal San Diego
Member since Mar 2019
7777 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:04 pm to
Groovy, Kafka. You are my favorite poster on TD.
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