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re: Why do women make men do things they don't want to do

Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:14 am to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20097 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:14 am to
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Seems like a lot of guys who are barely through the door of incel-dom.

My wife respects me enough to not ask me to go to a wearable arts show with her.

I really appreciate that.


Guys who talk about their wives are typically unhappy.

Guys who dont typically talk about their wives are happy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:14 am to
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Fine opinion you have there, woman hater.


Thats precisely how feminists act.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86169 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:15 am to
You are halfway there when you recognize it as a shite test. How many do?
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10042 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:15 am to
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They want emotional validation. The want you to listen to them and parrot back their emotional state to them. They’re always super insecure about what they think and feel, so they’re looking for their man to validate their emotions.


No. They don’t and I’m really tired of hearing this thrown around.

Some people do want this. Sure. Men and women. It has nothing to do with a specific gender.

Women, like anybody else, want to be listened to. That doesn’t mean you sit there and placate them. Just like you wouldn’t sit there and placate your male friend. I don’t know what’s hard to understand about this. You actually listen to the thing the other person is saying. They don’t need to feel like they are being heard. They need to be heard.

If that’s too much to handle, forget being in a relationship at all.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:16 am to
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Guys who talk about their wives are typically unhappy.

Guys who dont typically talk about their wives are happy.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:16 am to
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How many do?


Not many. I covered this in my initial post

quote:

The flip side is men having emotional pathologies that create all sorts of negative externalities in society. We're not perfect, either.


That's why my post you just quoted included a qualifier about reaching psychological and emotional maturity. The vast majority of modern men are nowhere close on either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:17 am to
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They need to be heard.


Thats childish. Part of your job, since their father failed, is teaching them what is important and what isnt. Every feeling doesnt have to be heard or validated.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16968 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:19 am to
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Guys who talk about their wives are typically unhappy.

Guys who dont typically talk about their wives are happy.


Not necessarily unhappy, sometimes just frustrated with something and they don't know how to approach their wife with it.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20097 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:21 am to
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No. They don’t and I’m really tired of hearing this thrown around.

Some people do want this. Sure. Men and women. It has nothing to do with a specific gender.

Women, like anybody else, want to be listened to. That doesn’t mean you sit there and placate them. Just like you wouldn’t sit there and placate your male friend. I don’t know what’s hard to understand about this. You actually listen to the thing the other person is saying. They don’t need to feel like they are being heard. They need to be heard.

If that’s too much to handle, forget being in a relationship at all.


Loss for words right now.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20097 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:21 am to
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Not necessarily unhappy, sometimes just frustrated with something and they don't know how to approach their wife with it.


Agreed, agreed.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20097 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:22 am to
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Thats childish. Part of your job, since their father failed, is teaching them what is important and what isnt. Every feeling doesnt have to be heard or validated.


I read that entire paragraph that person wrote in a womens voice.

I am confused now.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70464 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:22 am to
Comprehending what to validate, what to coumter, what to fix, what to ignore, where to stand your ground, where to compromise, when to emote, and when to be stoic is a process.

In my opinion, listening to a woman is like reading assignments for law school. You get hundreds of pages to read every day, and your job is to screen this mass of information for the handful of nuggets of information you need to act on and react to. Most of it is noise that they need to vent out, but buried in there is all of the facts and dicta you need to decipher current and future issues. It’s far too much information to memorize, so it’s all about picking up on what bits and pieces need to be remembered and acted upon.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86169 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:25 am to
Undoubtedly. Men have become puffs. What I want to say that I’ve realized is that a truly masculine man wants to understand female nature. It’s a male mastery thing. What I’ve only recently recognized is that I was confusing BEHAVIOR with NATURE. And what kind of dumb arse ( apparently me) is angry at female nature.

I also think some men get this inherently and aren’t at loggerheads with women all the time and still are hyper masculine and autonomous. Maybe finding a truly feminine woman who appreciates male nature is part of that. Maybe strong masculine men need strong feminine women.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32529 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:25 am to
With women, men will never ever win. Just gotta deal with what they want and their bull shite and never complain about it.

It's one of a few reasons why I'm not upset being single. I don't want to put up with that bull shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:26 am to
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I read that entire paragraph that person wrote in a womens voice.

I am confused now.


Same.

These dweebs have women who dont know them, nor respect them. I have been married twice for 18 years (including the current one) and my wife understands me and respects me. We dont force the other to do things they dont like.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3255 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:26 am to
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I'm in the dog house because I didn't smile enough last night at a Christmas musical that lasted 3 hours on a Tuesday night.

That sounds like some “dear leader just died in North Korea” type ish.

In all seriousness, it sounds like you enjoy being around her (else you wouldn’t be asking her to go with you to games). So how about tell her something like “I hate these things but I just like being around you”….

The trick is that you have to actually enjoy being with her. If you sat there and pouted for three hours then you really didn’t enjoy being with her…and that might be the real reason you’re in the dog house.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 10:28 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150327 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:30 am to
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These dweebs have women who dont know them, nor respect them.
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I have been married twice
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299431 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:31 am to
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If that’s too much to handle


My wife had a stroke in August. I do all the shopping, cooking, cleaning.

And youre' beating your chest for letting your wife lead you around with a chain in your nose.

Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15075 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:36 am to
Open up the lines of communication again. It's really tough to do b/c these conversations can spur arguments. You gotta say, look I love being with you and I will go to these with you. Sitting for that period of time just isn't my jam. I'd love for you to come to games with me. You can't get in the I did this for you so you have to do this for me game. That never works out.

Whenever I go to something that I would rather not do I try to focus on weird stuff. Look at the people who are around, find the person in the performance that cracks me up. It's usually percussionists. Be excited for them to hit the gong. It's right there......and they never hit it!!!. It keeps my body language from looking salty.

When she asks if you had a good time then say. I enjoy spending time with you.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10042 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:40 am to
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In my opinion, listening to a woman is like reading assignments for law school. You get hundreds of pages to read every day, and your job is to screen this mass of information for the handful of nuggets of information you need to act on and react to. Most of it is noise that they need to vent out, but buried in there is all of the facts and dicta you need to decipher current and future issues. It’s far too much information to memorize, so it’s all about picking up on what bits and pieces need to be remembered and acted upon.


I feel sorry for all of you that can’t understand why this is so insulting and maybe the worst advice I’ve ever read.

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