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re: Why do white men even go to schools like Harvard anymore?

Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:10 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:10 am to
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What an odd take. Why do you suddenly post some shite about Harvard? Step away from social media, dude. It's making you dumber (that goes for anyone with any political slant using Twitter to get angry every day).


No need to get emotional.

When on social media expect, well, social media.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:10 am to
The OT: where being a plumber is better than going to Harvard. Never change lads
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:11 am to
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There are a lot of people however that believe that E=mc^2 written on the chalkboard by a Harvard professor carries more weight than a professor at Auburn.


I mean they have better professors than your typical university, but the education portion is a very small % of the calculation. These elite schools put most of those lectures online for free, and have for 10+ years.

The reputation/prestige, student body/competition, and networking is the real value.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:11 am to
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Of course he isn't smart enough to realize he made a stupid point.




If X represents 17% of a large dataset, but represents 32% of a subset of that data, X is overrepresented in the chosen subset of data. Math is hard.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:12 am to
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Step away from social media, dude. It's making you dumber (that goes for anyone with any political slant using Twitter to get angry every day).

I’d be more concerned about their media consumption overall than merely being on social media.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 8:13 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:13 am to
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How does it compare to other universities, is the question.

With the increase in female population share on campuses, You'd expect this trend, I reckon. I don't think it's a Harvard issue exclusively.


That was going to be my next question after I got an answer on if the data was wrong.

It isn't some secret the population of college students has changed drastically.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:15 am to
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frick ALL the Ivy League schools. I think big state schools are better… better experience, better students (not talking about book smart here), better value, etc. The Future Value of a Dollar equation or Lagrangian equation works just the same at Auburn as it does at Harvard.


It’s actually insane how stupid some of you are
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133130 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:15 am to
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The reputation/prestige, student body/competition, and networking is the real value.


I don't disagree.

That's why I said in my earlier post, the only special thing about Harvard is established networking.

But if Harvard starts getting a reputation as a breeding ground for future blue haired angry white women their reputation will be harmed and those embellishment connections will be reestablished to the schools where the white dudes go.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 8:17 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:15 am to
Why do men go to college at all? You make more money as a blue collar


Yalls hands too soft to turn a wrench?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:16 am to
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17% of the American population are white men. Harvard's faculty is 32% white men.

17%? Isn't it closer to 30%?
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14410 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:16 am to
Most people don’t go to schools like Harvard so they can get a job. They go to these schools so they don’t have to get a job.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133130 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:17 am to
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They go to these schools so they don’t have to get a job.



Oh, so "working" at an NGO.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153819 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:22 am to
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The dude is an admitted pedophile.

What now?

I like you, E, but you seem just as ate up with political bullshite as the people you rail on constantly on here.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153819 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:24 am to
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I'd like to see controls for both college graduation rates and the the population entering academia over this scope for both males and females. Females have been outpacing males going to college for a while now. Harvard's issues with social justice are well documented, but this data doesn't prove what the poster wants it to by itself.

Exactly. It's just like the dude who threw out the "17% of the country is white males" thing. That is almost completely irrelevant to the discussion in this thread. It's nowhere near apples to apples.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34509 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:24 am to
Yeah, it's 32%.

People just make up shite on here.

As to the OP, the Ivy League is an embarrassing joke, especially Harvard.

Claudine Gay is all you need to know.
Posted by Randall Savauge
Member since Aug 2021
359 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:26 am to
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The question is why should white men even go to schools like Harvard anymore when the people around you at those schools generally hate you?


What don’t you understand? It’s not about the education, it’s about the contacts.
Posted by 13233
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:28 am to
The data presented is interesting, but it alone does not support the conclusion of the x/tweet. In fact, it looks like the single largest population group among the faculty are white men. If this person wants to criticize Ivy League schools (and there are reasons to do so) they are presenting a weak argument.

As far as reasons to go to such schools, there are many. I will give one.

Elite schools produce an outsized percentage of the people who will serve in the upper echelons of the US government. All but one of the current Supreme Court justices hold degrees from an Ivy League school. A significant percentage of the members of congress in both houses are Ivy League or educated at other elite schools (UVA, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UChicago, etc…). Trump’s administration, like all presidential administrations anymore, is populated with Ivy Leaguers (Hesgeth, Stefanik, Bessent, RFKjr, Vance). Trump is another example in a long list post World War 2 of presidents with an Ivy League degree (Wharton-Penn). Bottom-lime, if you want to run the country, or network with those who will, then going to one of these schools gives you an inside track. It’s not just what you know, it’s who you know.
Posted by Motownsix
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Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:30 am to
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The OT: where being a plumber is better than going to Harvard. Never change lads


100%
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153819 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:30 am to
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People just make up shite on here.

68% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1181 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:33 am to
82.4% of the people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not!
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