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re: Why do we pay for uninsured/underinsured motorist when we already have full coverage?

Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:14 am to
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3746 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:14 am to
To add to further confusion there are two types of UM. Classic UM that covers your injuries in the same fashion that the third party liability would have if there had been coverage/enough coverage and economic only UM coverage. If you select economic only UM it will only pay for your hard costs such as medical treatments/ lost wages as a result of injuries. That coverage does not allow for recovery on pain and suffering/ lose of enjoyment/use etc. If you are going to purchase UM get the classic as it is not that much more expensive than the economic only and if you find yourself in that situation you will wish you had the classic coverage. Unfortunately, driving without UM is like playing Russian roulette in Louisiana.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16993 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:15 am to
Cause it’s a huge scam

It’s like all the extra fees on buying a vehicle or paying the energy bill
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2668 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:16 am to
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We really are a state of idiots.


???

"Full coverage" has nothing to do with UM. They each do totally different things. Most people don't have nearly enough of both.

FUll covearge pays for injuries YOU cause if you are at fault.

UM covers YOU if the other idiot has no or not enough insurance to cover YOUR injuries.


Yes. My point was that OP doesn't understand what UM is. Also as to your attempt at explanation, "full coverage" has to do with comprehensive and collision, not BI liability.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64654 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:19 am to
so you can get full coverage but if you really want full coverage you have to have this addon.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5746 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:29 am to
Recently had it removed from all of my vehicles...quite a bit saved!
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15552 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:30 am to
You’re going to wish you had it when an illegal fricks your world up
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2668 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:32 am to
I think people have loose definitions of what "full coverage" means outside of industry speak. In Louisiana, on a personal vehicle you are required to carry minimal bodily injury liability limits of $15K per person and $30K per accident. You are required to carry $25K in property damage liability. These all pertain to damages you cause to others. Beyond that, everything else is optional, including underinsured motorist, which is for damages others cause to you.

"Full coverage" in insurance-speak, traditionally refers to your comprehensive (flood, theft, etc) coverage and collision (you run into your garage, etc.). Alot of people don't carry these extra coverages which is why you see people driving around in beat up shitboxes. They only carry liability and not any other optional coverages.

Case in point, my wife put my car in a ditch a few months back in bad weather. Her fault, no other cars involved. I have "full coverage" so now a have a brand new car.

"Full coverage" has nothing to do with UM.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98702 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:34 am to
You can waive UM if you wish.

But, considering that most people with "full coverage" are rolling with minimum limits, have fun with that.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5746 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:38 am to
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You’re going to wish you had it when an illegal fricks your world up


Converted most of my money into cash and have it where only I can get it. Don't want the government knowing my financial moves, etc. And with 87,000 more IRS agents being hired by this clown-show government, you can bet they'll be scrutinizing every move we make through banks.
So, if anyone tries to sue me...good luck. If it comes to me going to jail, I will simply identify as a female and see where that takes me.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:39 am to
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FUll covearge pays for injuries YOU cause if you are at fault. UM covers YOU if the other idiot has no or not enough insurance to cover YOUR injuries.


Umm, no.

Part of UM confusion is the damn name. Kind of like the Inflation Reduction Act. People who have UM often think it covers any damages or liability from an uninsured motorist, which is false.

ETA- after re-reading, I see you only specified injuries for UM, which is accurate. My bad.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 6:50 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65626 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:39 am to
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My aunt got t-boned by a drunk illegal
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6203 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:41 am to
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pain and suffering


And copays/coinsurance.

It can make a huge difference if you are mangled by a GoAuto or NPNP bum
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50109 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:46 am to
You need to know more about insurance coverages.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68578 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:48 am to
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For as much shite that the dems get ( and rightly so) too many on this board are so ate up with team politics to realise that the last time the Republicans were in power, they raised their pay and gave themselves better healthcare while stripping the ability (as shitty as that ability was) of working class folk to get any sort of healthcare.


It was cheaper and easier pre 2010. We hired more paper pushers and not actual medical staff.

The dems had been trying to ram that down the Americans throats since Bill Clinton.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20013 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:48 am to
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For as much shite that the dems get ( and rightly so) too many on this board are so ate up with team politics to realise that the last time the Republicans were in power, they raised their pay and gave themselves better healthcare


I disagree, I think the general sentiment is that the republicans have proven to be feckless losers that have at best, done very little to stop the spending and general madness of the left, and at worst are self serving members of the uniparty that freely make themselves richer on the us taxpayer dime. The type of candidate is changing because of this.

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while stripping the ability (as shitty as that ability was) of working class folk to get any sort of healthcare.


This part isn’t really true though. They certainly haven’t helped, and the fact that they couldn’t get any sort of replacement for Obamacare in place after years of public bitching highlights their feckless nature, but I’m not sure what you mean that they stripped anyone of healthcare access.

Neither party has done a damn thing to control the runaway cost of the care itself. Health insurance is a joke, and it’s not healthcare. Doctors and hospital admins have been pushing expensive care and hiding behind the shield of insurance for far too long. Hospitals have consolidated and they shuffle people around these campuses that have zero idea how much their bill will be when they leave, despite having insurance. Services were coded wrong? Unclear test results? Overcharged? Good luck disputing it, and good luck talking to the guy that performed the service and asking him to justify the cost. But the taxpayer who rarely visits the doctor foots the bill for the least healthy people that are satisfied spending their entire day going to these appointments, getting hooked up to expensive machines and picking up prescriptions. Completely broken system.

And finally to the OP, UM is you simply paying for the fact that you have more to lose that the people you are covering. It’s not a money grab, just an unbalanced cost share much like American healthcare.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:48 am to
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UM covers YOU if the other idiot has no or not enough insurance to cover YOUR injuries.


So does my health insurance. So why would I pay twice for health insurance?
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2668 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:52 am to
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So does my health insurance. So why would I pay twice for health insurance?


Health insurance does not cover general damages or lost wages if you can't work.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79068 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:56 am to
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while stripping the ability (as shitty as that ability was) of working class folk to get any sort of healthcare. How? I don’t remember this.


Because it’s not true.

Obamacare limited the time frame to get subsidized healthcare. One can still get insurance on their own anytime of the year.

But I will certainly concede he is 100% spot on that Congress f’ed everyone by lavishing themselves with insurance perks
Posted by justinking042
Member since Jun 2021
41 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:58 am to
Insurance is a scam.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17258 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:01 am to
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So does my health insurance. So why would I pay twice for health insurance?


It is not health insurance, UM would pay for lost wages, pain /suffering etc, you get in a fender bender and have whip lash , no big deal either way… you get in a catastrophic accident and get hospitalized with a brain injury, spine injury, multiple orthopedic injuries and can not work UM will help cover the gap, to each his own you decide what is best for you, for me and my family I have max coverage for UM plus an UM endorsement on my umbrella which brings it up to 1 million, makes me sleep better at night, hopefully you are right and I will never need it
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 12:39 pm
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