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re: Why do we (as a society) destroy stadiums?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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The state will "have" to do no such thing, and won't, if anybody outside the city of New Orleans has a vote.
They already have, The Superdome today, is far different from the Superdome of the Mora or even Haslett era, in utility and design. All paid for with your tax dollars...actually via the floating of bonds paid most directly by taxes via out of towners.....OPM, baby, OPM
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:13 pm to SaulGoodman
Unless we start having death matches in the stadiums, then they are of no historical worth to remain standing. Throw in some Spartacus type bloodbaths, and they will be preserved as hollowed ground.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:14 pm to StupidBinder
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I could have sworn the plan was to build it in Cobb county
That's the Braves' new stadium. They left the Falcons right in the ghetto where they belong.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:14 pm to LSUgirl4
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and not the one i'm talking about.
which stadium are you talking about?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:16 pm to chinese58
A few.
But like everywhere else, the Louisiana Superdome was new, with a roof and air conditioning, this is New Orleans, after all.
The Superdome was designed for pro football first, but Dave Dixon thought it would be a great tool for Tulane recruiting and for a while, it was.
As you can see, the upper deck at Tulane Stadium was supported by structural steel, that when not maintained in South Louisiana, rusted. Once the Greenies moved out, there was no thought to spending all that money to maintain what amounted to an Erector Set with no one playing there beside a few high school games per year.
I guess they could have removed the upper deck and the north end zone and kept the rest which were brick and concrete. But, again, with the football team decamped to the Superdome, why?
Kind of sad, a lost piece of New Orleans History.
But like everywhere else, the Louisiana Superdome was new, with a roof and air conditioning, this is New Orleans, after all.
The Superdome was designed for pro football first, but Dave Dixon thought it would be a great tool for Tulane recruiting and for a while, it was.
As you can see, the upper deck at Tulane Stadium was supported by structural steel, that when not maintained in South Louisiana, rusted. Once the Greenies moved out, there was no thought to spending all that money to maintain what amounted to an Erector Set with no one playing there beside a few high school games per year.
I guess they could have removed the upper deck and the north end zone and kept the rest which were brick and concrete. But, again, with the football team decamped to the Superdome, why?
Kind of sad, a lost piece of New Orleans History.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:32 pm to SaulGoodman
After the impressive amount of failure the Georgia dome has had in 25 years, you really want to keep it around for 2000?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:39 pm to SaulGoodman
Because we can reuse the land for something else that is beneficial. An empty stadium that isn't being used, which right beside a brand new stadium, doesn't provide us with anything that outweighs the cost to maintain it.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:39 pm to RedPop4
Thanks for the response RedPop4. Knowing how much history the stadium had, I assumed some probably wanted it preserved. That upper deck would have been crazy to maintain, and it's ugly from the outside.
The original structure would have been first class in 1927.
If the original structure could have been saved it would make a good place for high school games, but no reason for Tulane to have it on their campus.
Found this great article about all of the additions made to it through the years. The House the Sugar Bowl Built – The Gateway to Big-Time Football in New Orleans
The original structure would have been first class in 1927.
If the original structure could have been saved it would make a good place for high school games, but no reason for Tulane to have it on their campus.
Found this great article about all of the additions made to it through the years. The House the Sugar Bowl Built – The Gateway to Big-Time Football in New Orleans
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:45 pm to chinese58
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If the original structure could have been saved it would make a good place for high school games, but no reason for Tulane to have it on their campus.
Found this great article about all of the additions made to it through the years. The House the Sugar Bowl Built – The Gateway to Big-Time Football in New Orleans
It's funny to drive around the Uptown/University area of New Orleans on Tulane game days these days, and see all the goof restrictions they implement all over that part of town for the 10,000 or so people that go to games in that silly little stadium they built, and think there used to be an 80,000 seat stadium in the same area that would fill up for Saints games, Sugar Bowls and the occasional Super Bowl. And probably regularly draw 50-60,000 for Tulane games and fill it when they played LSU every other year there.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:51 pm to SaulGoodman
The coliseum is only 1 Roman amphitheater. They built many more that were drstroyed.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:54 pm to SaulGoodman
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Georgia Dome was destroyed today after 25 years. The Roman Coliseum still stands after 2000+ years.
How can someone even try to rationalize this comparison? Aside from the history of the coliseum and empire associated with it, who would come tour and want to see the GA dome?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:54 pm to SaulGoodman
Yeah look how beautiful the Pontiac Silverdome is, still standing 11 years after the Lions quit playing there.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:59 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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It's funny to drive around the Uptown/University area of New Orleans on Tulane game days these days, and see all the goof restrictions they implement all over that part of town for the 10,000 or so people that go to games in that silly little stadium they built, and think there used to be an 80,000 seat stadium in the same area that would fill up for Saints games, Sugar Bowls and the occasional Super Bowl. And probably regularly draw 50-60,000 for Tulane games and fill it when they played LSU every other year there.
Well, Tulane also used to be part of the SEC until 1966. Once they left the SEC and the Saints moved to the Superdome, there was no need for a large stadium and Tulane decided it needed that space more for housing, a garage, and a recplex. And a fricking soccer field.
All that's left of the Sugar Bowl is the name and a dinky little plaque mounted on a piece of the foundation they left near where the parking garage now stands.

This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:05 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Well, Tulane also used to be part of the SEC until 1966. Once they left the SEC and the Saints moved to the Superdome, there was no need for a large stadium and Tulane decided it needed that space more for housing, a garage, and a recplex. And a fricking soccer field.
All that's left of the Sugar Bowl is the name and a dinky little plaque mounted on a piece of the foundation they left near where the parking garage now stands.
I know all this. My point was more toward the reactions of the residents NOW and the goofy assed restrictions they demand for that dinky little stadium.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:20 pm to MSMHater
Agreed, they should have left Astroworld and tore down the Astrodome.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:24 pm to SaulGoodman
To build a new bridge you must first destroy the old one.
Sun Tzu
Sun Tzu
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:29 pm to SaulGoodman
you don't know how real estate works, do you?
does Roma (Italian soccer team) play in the coliseum?
as far as attracting foot traffic, do you have any brighter ideas for the land in Rome other than one of the oldest still-standing man-made structures? (does the GA dome have any historical architectural significance worth preserving?)
do you think, perhaps, someone did a bit of due diligence to find if it's worth having concerts in the old GA dome, or just doing them in the new stadium?
it's visionless people like you that get elected to public office and/or just clamor for stupid shite that makes zero economic sense at all. I award you no points, and my God have mercy on your soul
does Roma (Italian soccer team) play in the coliseum?
as far as attracting foot traffic, do you have any brighter ideas for the land in Rome other than one of the oldest still-standing man-made structures? (does the GA dome have any historical architectural significance worth preserving?)
do you think, perhaps, someone did a bit of due diligence to find if it's worth having concerts in the old GA dome, or just doing them in the new stadium?
it's visionless people like you that get elected to public office and/or just clamor for stupid shite that makes zero economic sense at all. I award you no points, and my God have mercy on your soul
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:40 pm to Quidam65
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But no, they had to "redevelop" an area of town nobody in their right mind would visit at night (or likely even in daylight).
Hmmmm, I take it you don't make it to downtown/East Downtown often.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:46 pm to jdeval1
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keep waiting on the Saints to hold us hostage for a new stadium
If there was any room in/near downtown Nola to actually build one, they probably would have already. It’s also Louisiana, where you have to pay every Tom, Dick and Harry under the table just to think about something o this scale.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:00 pm to chinese58
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Did any preservationist try to save old Tulane Stadium?
Watched many a Sugar Bowl and even more Saints games from there on TV.
I think it was built in the early '30s, so it was pretty antiquated by 1975. It was also too big for what Tulane football had become (just like the Superdome was too big). I don't remember preservationists trying to save it, but I was a kid.
I do remember being bummed when they tore it down. I had some great times at Tulane and Saints games as a child. In the late '60s/early '70s, my dad would park me and my brother way up in the north end zone (a Child's ticket was $2.50 up there) and go sit on the sidelines with his friends. He'd buy us each a drink and we carried in a Bunny Bread bag full of popcorn my mother made at home. He'd come back to check on us at halftime and we'd wait up there after the game for him. I was like 8 or 9 years old! Can you imagine doing that shite today?
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