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re: why do those who drink heavily think or use it because of bad kife

Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Makes no absolute sense at all.


Human nature ...

Choice #1 = Work through PAIN & SUFFERING in life

Choice #2 = Self medicate via booze, dope, scrip drugs, OTC drugs, and poor life choices to numb out said PAIN & SUFFERING

As for me, I come from Scots - Irish genes, and we were in the booze making business early in the history of this country. Guess it just comes natural to me.

Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5804 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:33 pm to
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It solves nothing


Eh. I have commented in certain situations that getting drunk/high is a great temporary solution. However never a long term solution.

OP…..demons are real, my friend.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
63768 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:38 pm to
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OP…..demons are real, my friend.


TRUTH!!

I have dated more than my fair share of demons.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57888 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:53 pm to
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No. You said "they were the gaggle that were changing the word literally" which is gobbledygook that says nothing and borders on non-responsive and posted a chatgpt summary, claimed 'they' referred to everyone via "common usage" and said 50 years ago despite the AMA classifying it as a disease 70 years ago.

I explained that common usage changes definitions before dictionaries adopt them. I used “literally” as an example. The word “literally” is now more commonly used to mean “not literally” than it is used correctly. See here:
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Major dictionaries like Merriam-Webster also recognize its second, widely accepted usage as an intensifier or figure of speech for exaggeration

This is what happened with “disease”.

You tried to make the point earlier that alcoholism has symptoms that are not different from the definition of disease. I carefully explained to you the difference between agency and non-agency in acquiring those symptoms. Then I gave you the example of suicide by gunshot, and how it also met your criteria. You never addressed that. Do you think a failed suicide attempt, leaving the victim disabled, is a disease? No? But you think repeatedly dosing oneself with poison causing depression as well as physical ailments is a disease? Fine, but it wasn’t always that way.

You quibble with my choice of 50 years, and maybe you are right. But in making your case you simply moved the date to 70 years ago without realizing that in doing so you admitted my point that the definition changed.

I was too lazy to look it up. Thanks.
Posted by JoeyFreshwater119
Member since Sep 2026
16 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:12 pm to
Once you get to a certain point you kinda have no choice but to carry on with the addiction.

Speaking about hard drug use or hard alcohol abuse.

It can kill you without medical care, to get off something when you're really down that hole.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31806 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:13 pm to
I like beer. I like the way when I drink beer. Same with wine and some liquors.

Define "heavy" drinking.
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