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re: Why do so many women have issues with their husbands/boyfriends watching porn?

Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:49 pm to
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just watch mature porn and it keeps the expectations in line hahaha


Touche LaFLeur
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:49 pm to
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They are more fit than most normal women.



5'3'' 155 is more fit than most normal women
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:55 pm to
One can read this thread and really tell which posters have wives that know and follow their posting habits.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:57 pm to
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Sometimes it's not as simple for women as just not wanting to have sex.

Sure but from a male perspective whether it’s medical or mental the outcome is the same.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Sure but from a male perspective whether it’s medical or mental the outcome is the same.


Maybe from a male that uses porn as a crutch's perspective. Healthy relationships involve communication about such things.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:03 pm to
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I have heard a lot of gay guys do this.


Did one whisper it to you while you were biting a pillow?
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Correct, but what about the poor married men whose wives absolutely refuse to satisfy them sexually?


Bye bitch.

If you ain't giving it up, we'll just get it somewhere else.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:05 pm to
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They are more fit than most normal women.



5'3'' 155 is more fit than most normal women


Sad but true.


Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:09 pm to
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5'3'' 155 is more fit than most normal women


Might want to up that those measurements can be a pretty delicious woman
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:10 pm to
I always enjoy reading through the various levels of self righteous indignation that comes out in these threads.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Might want to up that those measurements can be a pretty delicious woman


Delicious doesnt mean not heavy.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:11 pm to
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This all seems pretty unknowable.



The exact details of everything that happens in a relationship behind closed doors is unknowable. We do know that there are millions of women that have personality disorders, or are sociopaths, or are bipolar, etc. So while unknowable, it is assumable that it happens. The question is what should one do in that case? Unless the wife is not emotionally abusive and honestly doesn't want sex because of a hormone, or another medical issue, the answer is therapy and, if that doesn't work, divorce. In case of a medical issue, I think you seek medical treatment and go from there.

Staying with a mean, crazy bitch because you jerk off a couple times a week doesn't seem healthy for anyone involved.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Maybe from a male that uses porn as a crutch's perspective. Healthy relationships involve communication about such things.

Gross oversimplification in a nation with divorce laws heavily tilted towards mothers and a popular culture rooted in narcissism.

I had a friend come unglued over this issue one night at the bar. Guy was worth 8 figures, sole breadwinner with a couple young kids.

Before they got married she put it on him like crazy. They get married, she pops the last one out and announces she’s not really interested in sex anymore and that it was selfish of him to expect it from her.

He had to either walk out on his three young kids, hand over a couple mil plus child support and a throw away a stable life or accept involuntary celibacy.

For some women sex is just a lure to land a high status man and once they have the leverage they have little use for it. In that situation they resent porn because it represents a blowoff valve that reduces their relative power over their man.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:15 pm to
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I don’t think young men are just going to turn down sex because they watched porn. I could watch porn all day and still be down for sex anytime


The problem is young men are just whacking it in their parents' basement instead of going out and meeting real girls. They also get jaded and get into weirder and weirder stuff or just burn out altogether and lose interest in sex. It's a subset of the online/social media pathology that's affecting nearly everyone under age 30.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:17 pm to
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For some women sex is just a lure


And men absolutely are never anything but completely honest during courtship. It's unsurprising that yall keep leaving that part out.
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In that situation they resent porn because it represents a blowoff valve that reduces their relative power over their man.


Doesn't even make sense in this scenario as teh girl has everything she wants and doesn't have to frick the guy. If that's not a win win for her, not sure what is.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:21 pm to
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And men absolutely are never anything but completely honest during courtship. It's unsurprising that yall keep leaving that part out.

I’m happy to address negative male behaviors in a thread related to that. This thread is related to porn and I responded to a post related to women who just decide to opt out of sex in a marriage. You seem to be very sensitive about that which is interesting.
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Doesn't even make sense in this scenario as teh girl has everything she wants and doesn't have to frick the guy. If that's not a win win for her, not sure what is.

It’s not a win for many women because they still use sex when they want to get their partner to do something for them.

It’s the currency they use transactionally to get their way. If porn reduced the relative value of their currency it’s a threat and is resented.

You can’t possibly pretend you haven’t heard women talk about how they use sex to control men.

It would be like pretending men don’t use status or wealth to attract women.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:26 pm to
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I’m happy to address negative male behaviors in a thread related to that. This thread is related to porn and I responded to a post related to women who just decide to opt out of sex in a marriage. You seem to be very sensitive about that which is interesting.


I find it interesting because yall all act like it just happens in a vacuum.
Women like sex. You could make teh argument that now it's even socially acceptable for women to admit that publicly these days. If you aren't banging your wife regularly, you most likely play a part in that scenario.
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It’s not a win for many women because they still use sex when they want to get their partner to do something for them.


The scenario you laid out has a woman that is now rich with a family and access to all the stuff she wants and no way for the man to leave without paying her. What does she still need to frick him for? Your scenario makes no logical sense.
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It’s the currency they use transactionally to get their way. If porn reduced the relative value of their currency it’s a threat and is resented.

You can’t possibly pretend you haven’t heard women talk about how they use sex to control men.



All of this is just extremely unhealthy views on sex not held by people in good relationships.
Posted by Athletix
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:28 pm to
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I don’t think young men are just going to turn down sex because they watched porn. I could watch porn all day and still be down for sex anytime


Sure, if p**sy just fell in your lap. The problem is you've already rewarded yourself. Why make the improvements and put in the effort to better yourself when you can just jerk it whenever you want to.

It's deeply instinctual to improve oneself in the effort to get laid. This holds true whether you're single or married. By watching porn you short cut the events that could / would lead to improving oneself.

There's the examples of women holding sex as a form of reward that they rarely give. This is dysfunctional and should be addressed. First, are you putting in the effort to make yourself attractive. Second, are you being a decent husband treating your wife right. If you're doing step 1 and 2 and your wife refuses to have sex regularly (weekly at a minimum imo) - seek help. But if all else fails then this marriage is doomed without faith intervention.

Lastly, but most important is faith based. If you are Christian and have a belief in God then watching porn is breaking a commandment and gravely sinning. "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:28
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:29 pm to
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All of this is just extremely unhealthy views on sex not held by people in good relationships.


Completely agree.

Y’all act like women don’t want to get off either.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23356 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Women like sex.

Not all women like sex.

Statistically women have far lower sex drives than men across all nations and all age ranges.
Pysch Study: dating and sex drive by cohorts

Here’s an academic study outlining how male sexual interest in their partner at 5 years remains equal to when they were married while on average wives see significant reductions in sexual interest with their partner that continue to decline every year.
Psych Today: Published Study on Sexual Desire During Marrige
Interestingly they further determine that for women the reduction in desire for their partner occurs before they indicate any decline in relationship happiness, meaning they didn’t stop because they were unhappy, they just don’t want sex as much.

They also state “Crucially, it was not due to childbirth. Becoming parents made the mismatch worse, as in steeper declines in wives’ sexual desire. (In one study, but not the other, becoming a father significantly increased the man’s sexual desire!) Nor was it due to stress or depression, though those may have contributed to part of the problem in some cases.”

The authors propose the following hypothesis as to the biology behind the discrepancy:
“female sexual desire increases during the brief phase of passionate love. Nature may have arranged that as a way of encouraging the man to make a long-term commitment. Humans evolved from other great apes, but none of the other apes take fatherhood seriously, let alone provide daily food and shelter for their children’s mother over many years. Human men are remarkably different in that regard… Men’s sexual desire may have taken on an addictive character, so that men become attached and keep hoping for sex even when the yield of pleasure dwindles, as in some drug addictions.“
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The scenario you laid out has a woman that is now rich with a family and access to all the stuff she wants and no way for the man to leave without paying her. What does she still need to frick him for?

“Honey did you see that new bracelet Olivia has? I’d **** your brains out for one”
“If you _____ it would make me so wet…”

It’s transactional sex. Nothing I laid out is irrational or difficult to understand.

To them their sexual value is just a way to get a man to trade them goods, money or status in return for access.
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All of this is just extremely unhealthy views on sex not held by people in good relationships.

I agree 100%.

Unfortunately manipulative people are by nature deceptive so you wouldn’t know you’re in what amounts to a contractual financial agreement with someone who is going to commit fraud by deception (sex prior to marriage then no sex later on) until you’re already in that situation and are forced to choose between breaking up a marriage involving children, using porn to cope or being celibate.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 3:21 pm
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