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re: Why do so many good universities offer unmarketable degrees?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:00 am to TxTiger82
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:00 am to TxTiger82
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Most professors spend between 5-7 years on postgraduate degrees only to start under $70k per year. Yea ... most are not in it for the money.
Not that I disagree with you, but $70K doesn't always mean they're not overpaid.
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:14 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:yes
So you're saying all degrees don't have to be useful?
quote:yes. People go to grad school
it weren't for federal loans, do you think these schools would still offer shite degrees after people realized they were worth the money?
quote:some people still want an education
So if the only reason we need these programs is to educate future politicians and the college professors to teach them, then we really don't need those programs at every university, do we?
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:17 am to volod
The girls need some stupid degree to work towards while they scout for a husband
Posted on 8/2/19 at 6:27 am to CoachMoorGut
quote:
Not that I disagree with you, but $70K doesn't always mean they're not overpaid.
Pensions
20 hour work weeks
Assistants
Grad Students
no fear of losing your job because you are an idiot
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:57 am to volod
Most degrees aren't worthless if you are willing to move across the country, even by yourself, to take a job.
Most people don't want to do that so they stay close to home and don't find a job they like or in/close to their field.
Most people don't want to do that so they stay close to home and don't find a job they like or in/close to their field.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:58 am to Cowboyfan89
Why Your Barista Probably Has a College Degree
LINK
quote:
Making coffee isn't rocket science and it isn't taught in college, but that isn't stopping companies from making a degree a requirement.
LINK
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:59 am to volod
My undergraduate degree was an interdepartmental self-directed degree in speech, language philosophy and rhetoric. Is that a useless degree?
Then I went to law school.
Then I went to law school.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:15 am to volod
Some people go just to learn random shite that they think could be useful to them. If people are paying for those classes then might as well offer them.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:39 am to volod
Some degrees are completely worthless, yes, but for a lot of them, people just don't put in the effort or open themselves up to getting a decent job that would take them
Posted on 8/2/19 at 9:20 am to Hammertime
Don't discount that there are also jobs people won't take. The are plenty of professional jobs in ag, food, and mineral development that need college degrees and go unfilled because college grads don't want to live in Crowley or Lubbock or Des Moines. So they chose to be a barista in New Orleans or Austin or Chicago.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:03 am to OlGrandad
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Why Your Barista Probably Has a College Degree
Well, since I make my own coffee, you would be correct.
But I don't give myself fancy titles for making coffee either.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:18 am to volod
Perhaps this has been said in the 5 pages, but a university exists to offer learning opportunities. It doesn't exist to offer job training.
Maybe we need to rethink learning in the 21st century, but universities do it now because they have always done it that way.
Maybe we need to rethink learning in the 21st century, but universities do it now because they have always done it that way.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:28 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:
Pensions
20 hour work weeks
Assistants
Grad Students
no fear of losing your job because you are an idiot
Plus sabbaticals and travel. OTOH tenure is a lot harder to get than it used to be and academics are generally well aware that the higher education bubble is about to burst, potentially leaving them out of a job. Plus university workplace drama is like private sector office drama on steroids, and you have to deal with fragile students now, with all that implies.
Still a pretty good gig. Someone I went to undergrad with is a med school professor. Doesn't get paid quite as well as a private practice physician, but very reasonable hours, no malpractice insurance premiums, and a lot of travel to very nice locations for conferences.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:35 am to volod
Because millennials need a participation Diploma
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:40 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:
Perhaps this has been said in the 5 pages, but a university exists to offer learning opportunities. It doesn't exist to offer job training.
I agree with this. I was an English lit major and loved it. Minored in Latin. Yeah, I went to law school and that's how I make my money. But I think a classical liberal education is important.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:41 am to LSUFanHouston
Most majors should require a semester of internship IMHO. When you get out, it's damn near impossible to find something with zero industry experience. A degree, in many circumstances, is not enough to score you a good job coming straight out of school
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:44 am to volod
Because people will pay for them. It is honestly a good thing because over-saturation would be ridiculous if everyone who went to college only majored in a few things. However, we need to drop the "everyone needs to go to college" mentality and encourage more people into trade schools.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 11:53 am to bigberg2000
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Some people go just to learn random shite that they think could be useful to them. If people are paying for those classes then might as well offer them.
If those people's tuition paid for that random shite in it's entirety, then let them learn as much of it as they want to pay for. But in fact, state tax dollars and federal tax dollars are subsidizing them. And since higher education does not even consider efficiency as a measurable objective, we are subsidizing them with hundreds of millions in squandered tax dollars every year.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 12:55 pm to stateofplay
quote:
Most degrees aren't worthless if you are willing to move across the country, even by yourself, to take a job.
A liberal arts degree indicates the ability to learn a broad range of subject matter.
A company with <500 employees is going to need people to wear a lot of hats and is going to like that.
Posted on 8/2/19 at 3:41 pm to TBoy
quote:Yes.
My undergraduate degree was an interdepartmental self-directed degree in speech, language philosophy and rhetoric. Is that a useless degree?
quote:Confirmation achieved.
Then I went to law school.
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