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Why do pipes freeze down south when they didn't growing up in the northwest?

Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:59 am
I grew up in the PNW and we never left faucets open or tried to find pipes to put heating pads on or even covered outside spigots and it got significantly colder than it does down here in TX. Never had a pipe freeze growing up.

Why is that? It has to be a contruction/code thing re: actual piping materials used right? I mean we had houses on slabs too, not everything was dug well under ground into a basement or anything. I'm not sorry for the dumb question, the google machine wasn't much help.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:00 pm to
Homes are built different
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:00 pm to
House design. I probably have 300' of total exposed water pipe at my place.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:01 pm to
Ya unnerstand times was differnt then son.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:01 pm to
Insulated pipes...
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:01 pm to
Freeze line in the north generally is 6-8’ below the surface. This is also why you have basements.
Posted by 8miles
slidell
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:02 pm to
Global cooling. Pay them taxes boy!
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3636 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:06 pm to
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This is also why you have basements.


Arid soil helps too I imagine. Never had a basement growing up though.

Also did some construction over the summer in college where we dug in and laid water/sewer/irrigation lines to new housing development. None of the lines going to the homes were buried deeper than the ones going to my old house in Ft Worth. Again, why I was curious.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:06 pm to
Pipes up north a buried over 3' below ground, or deeper then the frost layer.

because they know they will see sub freezing temps, they insulate and protect the pipes better.

Why do some house in the north not have A/C.....
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:07 pm to
The pipes in the northwest had to walk to school uphill both directions in the snow. That made them tougher and better able to keep from freezing.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:08 pm to
Mexicans
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3636 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Why do some house in the north not have A/C...


Well you can't buy a new house even in Western WA any more that doesn't have A/C, even though there is only 1-2 months where you would use it regularly. Does new construction in DFW (for example) take into account the fact that there will be temps capable of freezing pipes every year?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:36 pm to
If your pipes grew up in the northwest, they’re from hardy stock and a rugged upbringing, but being away from their homeland has made them soft.
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:40 pm to
Frost proof exterior valves, exterior supply lines buried below frost lines, interior plumbling behind insulated structures. No magic. Just sensible yankee planning.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20894 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:40 pm to
At least for footings they are supposed to be deeper than 42" below grade to protect from frozen soil.

It was 4°F (-15°F low) as a high a week or two ago and I dont know anyone that had any issues.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:41 pm to
It was one of the breaks we had to take from losing the Civil War. Thanks for bringing it up again.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31121 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Why do some house in the north not have A/C.....


My childhood home doesn't have A/C.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3636 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

It was one of the breaks we had to take from losing the Civil War. Thanks for bringing it up again.


sorry baw, my bad
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16572 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:43 pm to
Houses aren't built with "wet walls" up north. Plumbing comes up from a central location and is distributed from there. Here you'll have plumbing running in exterior walls because they were stubbed out in the foundation in such locations. Combine that with thinner walls and less insulation and you get frozen pipes.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12981 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 12:48 pm to
basements
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