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re: Why did the South think an economy based on slave labor be sustainable?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:09 pm to HogX
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:09 pm to HogX
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I think most folks realize that some were treated quite well. But many/most were not.
One example doesn't excuse the practice of people owning other human beings, regardless of how they were treated. I don't care if it's whites owning blacks or blacks owning blacks.
Not to mention slaves were still considered property. They were owned by someone who were able to do whatever they wanted with them, because... They owned them. It wasn't like they were able to decide they didn't like working for free so they could up and decide to go get another job or start their own business.
They were not allowed to earn their own money so they could go buy whatever they wanted. A black slave wasn't able to get their kids a good education.. But I guess as long as no crack and whip was needed then they didn't have it that bad.
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:14 pm to Cosmo
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It wasnt. Slavery would have gradually ended over next 20 years or so
That may have been the case, but we will never know for certain.
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But the yankees decided we needed to fight a war and have millions die over it.
That’s not correct, the South decided they wanted their own nation first, and used force to drive out Federals.
The North then decided they couldn’t and invades the South.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:15 pm to TaTa Toothy
Why didn’t Napoleon use tanks to invade Russia?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:16 pm to cypresstiger
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The South broke away
Legally seceded
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confiscated US forts and materiel and attacked Ft Sumter.
States rights mattered back then, they felt that that stuff was the property of SC
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Millions didn’t die. 618,000 roughly.
you right, my google search was fake news
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:18 pm to willymeaux
Now shite is getting real. Tanks?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:21 pm to willymeaux
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Why didn’t Napoleon use tanks to invade Russia?
Because he was too short?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:24 pm to fishfighter
I’m just making fun of the revisionist “historians” who look at history with the knowledge we have today. Slavery was bad and back then people didn’t think it was. But we’ve progressed through society to understand that slavery was an evil institution. Same way we understand that tanks are a better way to cover more ground when attacking an enemy.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:25 pm to fr33manator
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This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:34 pm to willymeaux
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I’m just making fun of the revisionist “historians” who look at history with the knowledge we have today. Slavery was bad and back then people didn’t think it was. But we’ve progressed through society to understand that slavery was an evil institution. Same way we understand that tanks are a better way to cover more ground when attacking an enemy.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people knew it was bad. Didn't they have a whole abolitionist movement for a long time?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:35 pm to Methuselah
Not a lot in the south
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Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:35 pm to Cosmo
What was legal about secession? The Nullification Crisis and the Hartford Convention showed secession was not OK.
“...they felt that that stuff was the property of SC”
—“They felt” doesn’t equal legal. AOC “feels” we shouldn’t have borders.
“...they felt that that stuff was the property of SC”
—“They felt” doesn’t equal legal. AOC “feels” we shouldn’t have borders.
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:35 pm to TaTa Toothy
Because it had been sustainable throughout human history till that point.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:40 pm to cypresstiger
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hat was legal about secession? The Nullification Crisis and the Hartford Convention showed secession was not OK.
There was a reason no southener was ever tried, And it wasnt out of brotherhood, every account ive heard was was Salmon Chase and others warned it wasnt a certainty
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:40 pm to AU66
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Because it had been sustainable throughout human history till that point.
True. There were not many contractors around when Rome was built.. Or when the pyramids were constructed.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:41 pm to Cosmo
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But the yankees decided we needed to fight a war and have millions die over it.
If we didn’t fight a war over slavery, we would have fought one over another issue.
There was no scenario where we were allowed to be different.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:57 pm to TaTa Toothy
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Why did the South think an economy based on slave labor be sustainable?
Who is "the South"?
Prove that this is what "the South" believed.
We will see who is "Not too bright" here.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:15 pm to Napoleon
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I never got it. A slave cost around 4-5 years of a workers entire salary. Plus you had to feed and house.
Seems hiring migrants like the north and west did, would be cheaper.
So you saying the railroads done it right by hiring coolies (no racist, I'm asian). F Stanford. The coolies were treated worse than slaves.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:17 pm to MojoGuyPan
That’s true.
Slaves were an expensive investment, and were generally treated as such.
Slaves were an expensive investment, and were generally treated as such.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:19 pm to TaTa Toothy
Ask an older Democrat, they are the party of slavery/racism.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:34 pm to SeeeeK
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Ask an older Democrat, they are the party of slavery/racism.
How old? 100? At what point do you just admit the Republican party is the party of old, racist, white people and own it?
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