re: Why did Lincoln give a carve out to the River Parish baws on slavery?

That kind of shits all over the narrative that the war was started over slavery
—-Slavery was the issue. The south claimed the war was about the north threatening the south’s constitutional rights. But slavery was the “right” they were talking about.

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I think the rumblings leading up to the war were more about the expansion of slavery more so that slavery already existing. But, some of you may know bette

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In as far as it meant representation in DC, yes. Doubt ppl in Mississippi otherwise cared about the happenings in Missouri.

That doesn’t prove what I said is false. All I stated was fact. That Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation didn’t free a single slave in the Union states he had authority over.

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So the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Union occupied areas?

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Nope. Only applied to areas in rebellion. So, for all intents and purposes, when Lincoln gave the Emancipation Proclamation, he didn’t free anyone.

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That doesn’t prove what I said is false. All I stated was fact. That Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation didn’t free a single slave in the Union states he had authority over.

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Nothing I posted was to counterargue your post. I was merely pointing out that six states left the Union before Lincoln ever took office. They'd rather cause bloodshed of their own citizens and fellow Ameicans than resolve the dispute in a legal manner.

But you are right. What authority did Lincoln have to free enslaved people in the remaining states of the Union? He could have maybe suspended slavery like he did with habeas corpus but that would have only been temporary during emergency wartime powers. Congress still would have needed to pass laws repealing slavery in the states. However, Lincoln could free enslaved people if this breakaway Confederacy recognized said people as property. Hence, Lincoln freed people that were held in bondage as chattel, kind of like how Canada was recognizing people seeking self-emancipating for 50+ years before the Civil War. Lincoln was just doing it on southern turf as the US military was reclaiming land.

The Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually do shite! Political move!

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That piece of shite exponentially grew the power of the federal government more than any single president in history until FDR

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Yes he did indeed. The original RINO.

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wasn't about slavery...it was about power and money...

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Some things never change. Slavery was on the way to being phased out.

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The Battle of Boutte Station!

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I feel like a fat retard. I have eaten at the Bamboo Garden right by there about 20 times in last 7 years and had never heard of this Skirmish. I'm reading now.

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All I know is the civil war was unnecessary in terms of slavery. Slavery was being outlawed around western and South American civilized areas on their own without civil war because it was immoral and mechanization was starting to take over.

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Hence . . . the southern states seceded. Secession was the last stand of a cornered institution being left behind by the rest of the world.

Or, as stated by the state of Mississippi:

“Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.“