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re: Why can cops lie to you?

Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17420 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:05 pm to
Because it is only illegal if anyone, including cops, do it under oath or to an official performing official duties.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4366 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:12 pm to
You have the right to remain silent
Anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law

Soooooooooo, shhhhhhh
Posted by EmmittLBrown
Member since Oct 2023
275 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:14 pm to
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Soooooooooo, shhhhhhh


Nope. There are circumstances where your silence can be used as evidence of your guilt.

"I want a lawyer."

The end.
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
595 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:15 pm to

Agreed.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
110192 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:38 pm to
Because they're above the law. Kinda like most government employees.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9595 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:54 pm to
If the cop lies under oath he/her/she/him can be charged
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10448 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:14 pm to
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Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

just ACAB


Always
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33912 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:18 pm to
its not a lie if you believe it
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
4459 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

99.9% of the time they aren’t the first ones to become violent


Posted by Stoic Poser
South LA
Member since Apr 2023
513 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:33 pm to
It’s not deception
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
5316 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

99.9% of the time they aren’t the first ones to become violent

Whatever you say officer
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5496 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

You can be charged just for giving them a fake name when they ask who you are.


That's different because most if not all states have specific laws that require yourself to identify yourself (i.e. you can't plead the 5th if asked to ID yourself). You can always catch an obstruction of justice charge too for not IDing yourself.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 8:53 pm
Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2339 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:59 pm to
If you find yourself in a position where the cops are having to lie to you about something then you’ve probably been up to something you shouldn’t have been.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2459 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

most if not all states have specific laws that require yourself to identify yourself (i.e. you can't plead the 5th if asked to ID yourself). You can always catch an obstruction of justice charge too for not IDing yourself.


But if you flee to a voting booth you are off the hook
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82950 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

If the cop lies under oath he/her/she/him can be charged


when a cop is under oath and his/her lips are moving it’s a sure sign that they are lying
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70920 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:34 am to
"Look. Your buddy already told us everything. He said you did it all . It was all your plan. You're the mastermind and he just helped"


Meanwhile the other guy hasn't said a word


Or.

"We have your prints at the scene and we can place you at the crime"


Meanwhile crime techs haven't even looked up prints yet.



Hell I was in a house that police. Entered with no warrant. I brought this up and quoted the bill of rights.
The officer said "we passed a law allowing home inspections" thankfully no one signed the papers legalizing the search.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6765 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:51 am to
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Bc everyone lies

But it's illegal to lie to the police.

I believe that police should be held to the same standard as people outside of a formal police interrogation. At the start of the interrogation they should be required to inform people of their standard Miranda rights and the fact that police can lie during police interrogations. They should also be required to record those interactions with zero reactions.

Deceit is a useful tool for law enforcement. But in this day and age the vast majority of people are too ignorant of their rights and what the role of the police actually is. Also, the laws are so convoluted for the general public they have no idea that a police officer can say you broke the law and they have no idea whether it's the truth or a lie.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 6:55 am
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10125 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:27 am to
Am I being detained or am I free to go?

Then STFU.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7705 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:48 am to
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No context. I was just wondering why it is OK for cops to mislead us while we are charged with perjury if we lie, even if it's accidental, to the police


so there would need to be way more context. without context the answer is why do citizens lie also. Man I caught you speeding. Where no I wasnt. Idk how fast I was going.
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