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Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:24 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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Joel Osteen’s hair dresser is his tax.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:26 pm to ImaObserver
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Property taxes? Politics aside, the large ones own billions and even trillions worth of property and much of it is a source of revenue competing with the tax paying public.
Depends on the state
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:28 pm to ImaObserver
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the large ones own billions and even trillions worth of property and much of it is a source of revenue competing with the tax paying public.
This is the Catholic church, and maybe 1 or 2 other denominations that own that much in property. Those churches also do far more in community support than any tax paying company is.
That is also such a minority that's it's laughable.
I grew up as the son of a pastor, and my dad hid nothing from me regarding the inner working of the church at the local and state level. We were Nazarenes, a middling sized denomination that focuses mainly on missions work outside the united states. Nearly every US based church in the denomination would close overnight if they had to pay taxes. There isnt this magic bucket of money churches are hoarding. The revenue just wouldn't exist because the churches would all die.
I know that is the real goal of those who want to tax churches. They know it will kill them.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:38 pm to VaBamaMan
If they tax churches then all 501c3 should be taxed. Red Cross… etc
They’d all die, not just the churches
They’d all die, not just the churches
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:01 pm to deeprig9
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This is the short answer. Unless church staff are embezzling, any payouts from the church to staff or anyone else gets taxed.
How about the church owned house that the preacher lives in, the car, the plane, the mission trips to the Caribbean? Before you say it’s only the mega churches, I know if a medium sized church in ellic that owns two planes.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:02 pm to VaBamaMan
People want to feel better about themselves b/c they hold onto money like grim death.
A lot of larger churches have audited, public financial statements.
Churches hsve employees that need health care and retirements just like ecryone else.
They also have to pay for lawn care, water, and electricity like any other entity.
A lot of larger churches have audited, public financial statements.
Churches hsve employees that need health care and retirements just like ecryone else.
They also have to pay for lawn care, water, and electricity like any other entity.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:07 pm to UFFan
If any income is taxed, all of it should be.
If there are exemptions, they should apply universally.
If there are exemptions, they should apply universally.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:09 pm to UFFan
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Why aren’t churches taxed?
I think that churches should be taxed, regardless of whether they preach politics.
How far this country’s citizens have fallen. At some point the bell will ring and it will then resonate, but until then, you will play right into the hands of the most irresponsible human beings ever known, our politicians.
There will NEVER be enough tax revenue for people who cannot live within a budget and are elected and re-elected on promises to constituents that cost money we don’t have to spend. The lack of revenue is not your problem, as much as taxing churches isn’t the answer for what ails us.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:10 pm to Grnbud
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How about the church owned house that the preacher lives in
A parsonage is no different than oil rig workers provided with housing, should they be taxed on this benefit?
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the car, the plane, the mission trips to the Caribbean?
I'm sure there's some embezzlement and fraud going on with a million nonprofits, don't get me wrong.
quote:Depending on what kind of plane, they can be cheaper than you think they are. Less than a new F-150. But again, if there's fraud and embezzlement going on, that's already a crime and should be prosecuted.
I know if a medium sized church in ellic that owns two planes.
Removing tax-exempt status from religious institutions does not solve the problem that is people cheating the system.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:12 pm to jwalk38
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I do, but I also think it's bullshite that if a church catches on fire, the fire department (which the church doesn't pay for) will come put it out.
i’d guess 90% of people who interact with the fire department are net takers. so that’s an argument, it’s just a dumb one
according to you, only net tax payers should receive public services. I’m on board, are you?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:46 pm to Grnbud
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How about the church owned house that the preacher lives in
Housing allowance is reported on his W-2.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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By many if you mean all, yes
No, not all.
There's this thing called the Tax Code that has standards for non-profits to meet in order to become tax exempt, and there are different categories and levels for those that qualify.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:51 pm to UFFan
Is this an atheist thread or an anti-nonprofit thread?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:57 pm to UFFan
Freedom of religion is a fundemental human right, and the authority to tax is the authority to destroy. You can't have both free exercise of religion and taxation of churches.
Now tell me do you think all not for profits should be taxed or just churches?
Now tell me do you think all not for profits should be taxed or just churches?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:20 pm to UFFan
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Why aren’t churches taxed?
Simple answer…because any politician who proposes to tax churches will lose by a landslide thenest time he runs for office.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:33 pm to deeprig9
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A parsonage is no different than oil rig workers provided with housing, should they be taxed on this benefit?
Depending on what kind of plane, they can be cheaper than you think they are. Less than a new F-150.
If the oil company provides a permanent residence and pays all the bills for the worker and his family for the entirety of their tenure, yea. They should pay taxes on it. It would be listed as part of the compensation during the hiring of the employee wouldn’t it? You pay taxes on your compensation. If it temporary housing at a job location, housing the worker with other workers instead of his family, then obviously not. Providing a house as part of your compensation package is different than temporary work housing at a job site for the worker only. Your example sucks.
Would you be ok with your pastor buying two new f-150’s for himself out of the tithes? I know what planes cost. The jet that this church owns costs more than an f-150. Not to mention the second plane. Hell, his pilot costs more than a f-150 and that’s yearly. Again, your example sucks.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:37 pm to Darth_Vader
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Question, do you believe in the concept of separation of Church and state?
I do. Tithings should not be taxed. But property should be taxed equal with every other person and entity. Sales tax should be applied equally also.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:39 pm to Tdogg78
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Tax them all
Why should the govt get more money from anybody to waste?
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