re: Why are there so many more Indians in tech than Chinese?

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Incorrect, the Indians you see here in America represent the top .001% of India.

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To be fair, the same can be said for the Chinese you see here.

To the OP - I think the biggest factor is that India is much more integrated with the west in general than China. Both have interdependent economic relationships with the west, but Chinese society is much more insular (whether due to the CCP or just their culture) than India.

As an example, a ton of the companies I work with have global support functions located in India. Not one has those functions in China. In fact, most if not all have Chinese offices that exist strictly to support Chinese operations.

I work in tech as a software engineer, on the contrary there are many Chinese who work at FAANG’s, however you don’t hear it as much. It’s hard to find Tivoli Experts, SAP Professionals, SAS Programmers, Oracle Developers, Java/Web Developers, Cisco Network Engineers, .Net Developers, C/C++ Embedded Engineers, QA Testers, and other similar skills that are growing faster than the current supply can handle. Americans simply don't do these jobs. The aforementioned, I’ve specifically found that Chinese certainly represent those specific skill sets over East Indians.

Several years ago FAANG’s loved the $130K H1B salary amendment. Zoe Lofgren’s bill clearly states that they can add bonus and stock options to the base salary to meet the $130K requirement. Moreover, even if a tech firm is H1B dependent, and can meet the $130K requirement, they will file and get it easily. It was also a big reprieve to start-up companies who needed this kind of talent without the hassle of the H1B lottery.

What you’re seeing is the impact of H1B’s which is heavily dominated by East Indians IT consulting companies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, ect, ect who send engineers to work at customer sites, in which they charge a client a set price, for example $100 to $180 per hour, which helps the client undercut an American job, and the consulting company pays 70% of the billed price to the H1B visa holder. In this model there is no way IT firms can pay $130K to a consulting employee, it’s simply not viable anymore.

There’s lots of Chinese in the Silicon Valley and Seattle who work in tech. I work with many Chinese who are very good at their jobs. For example, many Chinese gravitated to the Silicon Valley way before the East Indians arrived. Bill Shockley and the Fairchild team was probably what kick-started the Silicon Valley miracle. Certainly if there was no Fairchild, there would be no Intel, and the entire semiconductor ecosystem that puts the Santa Clara Valley on the map. No Fairchild also probably means there would be no Kleiner Perkins, the reknown SV VC, and that would mean no Netscape, and no internet boom in the 90s. If you walk into any STEM Masters program, you’ll see it is heavily dominated by Asians, as opposed to East Indians. Are East Indians present, sure, but not nearly as represented by Asians.

You better believe that if the Indians (or anyone for that matter) do anything better than the Chinese, then the Chinese will reverse engineer it and do it at least as good.

Its a number of factors; English language skill availability is the top one, but the price of Chinese skilled labor has been skyrocketing--its now about three times as expensive, conservatively, as Indian skilled labor.

Throw in having to worry about securing your technology from your own employees half as much, and its not really a wonder as to why Indians are outpacing the Chinese in the tech sector.

In my experience with tech companies …Indians are in support roles
Chinese are developers … Chinese will be sponsored for visa by company

Indians will not..

A side note.. India ..Indians are not considered a minority for things like kids applying to college .. I am talking about second third… etc generation us citizens.

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I always laugh when people say this

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Yet average IQ and average income suggest otherwise.

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I work in tech as a software engineer, on the contrary there are many Chinese who work at FAANG’s, however you don’t hear it as much. It’s hard to find Tivoli Experts, SAP Professionals, SAS Programmers, Oracle Developers, Java/Web Developers, Cisco Network Engineers, .Net Developers, C/C++ Embedded Engineers, QA Testers, and other similar skills that are growing faster than the current supply can handle. Americans simply don't do these jobs

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There is more to the software field than Silicon valley.

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They are one of the dumbest races on the planet.

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There’s lots of Chinese in the Silicon Valley and Seattle who work in tech.

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I know several Chinese that work in tech


Many would be very surprised how redpilled some of them are honestly

They copy what’s ours because those who want to mass produce can send over their prototype like an idiot and get units made for nothing.
If anything was still made in America, sure it would be more, but we wouldn’t have half the BS — shoddy production, economic fragility, poor international relations with China.
They know stupid Americans need them.

And, the Chinese and Indian population are the two largest - the doctors and tech sector ppl represent the less than 1%.