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Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:05 am to Jcorye1
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Cmon, people are mass producing liquor in their backyards using materials loaded with lead. I mean, it's not like industry took over and started having internal/governmental/industry standards and all that.
Not sure if you're aware of this but bootlegging whisky is still a pretty big business in the US.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:05 am to whoisnickdoobs
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Are you are for the legalization of meth?
i am
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:05 am to whoisnickdoobs
So, should fast food be outlawed too? Heart disease is the leading cause of death in America.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:05 am to whoisnickdoobs
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Are you are for the legalization of meth?
I think ALL drugs should be legal. We should focus on treatment.
The government should not tell us what we can and cannot take. Hell I can suck on a can of keyboard cleaner or freon and get high .... and die.
The drug laws are not at all about safety. Never were.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:06 am to Salmon
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I don't and personal experience backs me up
sorry
just don't believe it
well ok
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the average 16 year only needs to walk to the fridge in their house to get beer
you do realize I meant buy beer
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:06 am to Darth_Vader
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There is no good argument for legalizing meth. Even if it were legal we'd still have the cost of treating those who use it. And legalizing it would not remove the fact there is a legit to be made from making it and selling it, this you'd still have people making it in underground labs.
It is legal, if you have a prescription. Desoxyn is its pharmaceutical name. Used to treat ADHD and obesity. I'm sure big pharma and the AMA have an interest in keeping "drugs" illegal too. That way they can be the only legal source for narcotics.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:07 am to Darth_Vader
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Not sure if you're aware of this but bootlegging whisky is still a pretty big business in the US.
Bootlegging and creating whisky in your backyard are two completely different things. People bootleg whisky from one state to another to avoid paying state excise taxes. People also bootleg fuel and tobacco products, luckily LA has some of the cheapest rates for both in the country, so it's not a huge issue.
Less than .01 percent of whisky drank in America was made by individuals illegally operating distilleries.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:09 am
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:07 am to Jcorye1
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Personal freedom is always a good argument.
I agree about personal freedom but there is a fine line between that and anarchy. And there are things that need to be considered when it comes to the overall greater good of society. Keeping meth and other hard drugs like it illegal is one of those things in my opinion.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:08 am to WeeWee
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If your weed dealer trusts you he will hook you up with a coke dealer or sell you coke himself.
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You are making huge assumptions that there is this huge network of dealers or something. Most people who sell pot are people who figure they can buy a little extra and make enough back that their pot for themselves is free. You have to really have weight in pot to make money. You won't get rich selling a pound or two a month.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:08 am to Breesus
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Multiple studies show people do things like meth and bath salts and heroin because they cant find other drugs. Those are drugs of last resort.
fake weed is THE go-to example for this
there is a safe, natural option that is illegal. a dangerous, chemical version then hits the market to fill this void
as they outlaw each type of fake weed, the next versions become more dangerous to users
the alternative is weed, which isn't harmful in those ways (there are residual effects on lungs if you smoke it)
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:09 am to Darth_Vader
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Keeping meth and other hard drugs like it illegal is one of those things in my opinion.
How do you draw the line?
What about psychedelic drugs?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:10 am to Darth_Vader
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Not sure if you're aware of this but bootlegging whisky is still a pretty big business in the US.
Probably all going to dry counties in Alabama.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:10 am to whoisnickdoobs
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Are you are for the legalization of meth?
yes, but i'm willing to allow policy to move towards that and see what happens along the way. we don't have to go from 0-to-100
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:12 am to Nonetheless
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What about psychedelic drugs?
before i had to go be a grownup i was going to ask for a list of the OK and n'OK drugs, b/c i'm willing to inch towards piece by piece
i think science has clearly shown us that weed, LSD, mushrooms, and ecstasy shouldn't be illegal. can we all agree on those?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think science has clearly shown us that weed, LSD, mushrooms, and ecstasy shouldn't be illegal. can we all agree on those?
I definitely agree on those. I think many other people still believe psychedelic drugs are harmful when they are actually beneficial
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:15 am to Nonetheless
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How do you draw the line?
It's not an easy line to draw to be honest, but one that needs to be drawn none the less. I personally believe that when it becomes apparent that a a particular drug causes those who use it to become an overall negative drain on their community and society as a whole, then the government needs to do everything it can to stop that drug from being available.
That's why I'm for legalizing pot. There is nothing to indicate a pot smoker is a drain or harmful to their community and society as a whole. Smoking pot only affects that person, thus there's no valid reason in my opinion for it to remain illegal.
But that's not the case with hard drugs. People who use and become addicted to those drugs do have a negative impact on their community and society and making those drug legal would do nothing to solve that problem and in fact would only make them worse.
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What about psychedelic drugs?
I've not seen anything that indicates people who use drugs like LSD or shrooms affect anyone else but themselves. Now there are some risks with these drugs that you don't see with pot, namely the chance for a psychotic episode. But even here that chance is small.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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well to be fair, if meth was legal, he would never be cooking meth like that. it would be done in factories with insurance, etc
People still homebrew beer, wine, moon shine, etc
Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:17 am to Nonetheless
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I definitely agree on those. I think many other people still believe psychedelic drugs are harmful when they are actually beneficial
there is growing research that LSD may be useful in treating PTSD and other mental schism diseases
ecstasy is a great drug for counseling (much lower doses than recreational use). i believe that's where it got its start until the gay community of Dallas (i think) got ahold of it in the 80s and it became a huge party scene drug.
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