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re: Why are drugs and prostitution illegal?

Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:50 am to
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t's things like what I just listed that are the hidden costs of people using hard drugs. That's why hard drugs should never be legal.




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His care at Vandy Hospital


never would have happened if it was legal


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His family lost their home when his lab exploded.

never would have happened if it was legal

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cleaning up the burned out toxic waste dump left behind.

never would have happened if it was legal.

How does it being illegal stop this from happening again?
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Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:50 am to
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Stupidest thing I have read today



How so? Crack kills, but obesity effects a much larger segment of the United States.

CDC

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Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 35.1% (2011-2012)
Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are overweight, including obesity: 69.0% (2011-2012)


Now those stats are from 2012, but I seriously doubt 30% of America is doing cocaine.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:50 am to
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Our entire system of commerce is dependent upon sex to market products. Getting laid is ultimately why most people buy products so if we don't have to buy things to get laid our economy goes to shite.


Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:51 am to
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I see what you're saying and it does make sense. But the problem with drugs like meth and the other "hard" drugs is that when you've got people putting those substances in their body, it affects other people. In fact, if you look at the cost these addicts inflict on their communities from a crime and healthcare standpoint, not to mention things like child welfare, entitlements, etc. you see that they are a massive problem for society as a whole. And that's not even taking into account the "war on drugs" angle when it comes to how addicts cost society as a whole.

I'll give you one example from the show I watched the other night on Meth. They interviewed a meth cook who's lab exploded on him. He was in Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville with 2nd & 3rd degree burns over just about his whole body. Here's what will result from this one meth cook, who btw was also an addict.

1. His care at Vandy Hospital will cost well over $1,000,000.00. Of course he has no insurance or a job. The hospital will have to absorb those costs which means those costs will be passed on to the rest of us. They interviewed one doctor at the hospital and according to him they are approaching I believe he said it was $300,000,000 a year in uncovered costs of treating drug addicts for different medical needs.

2. His family lost their home when his lab exploded. He had a mother that I know of and i think a wife and kids. All those people will now more than likely, or probably already were, receive government assistance and now on top of that, government housing. So this guy, instead of supporting and proving for his family, now leave them to us, the tax payer to support and house.

3. Then there's the massive cost of cleaning up the burned out toxic waste dump left behind. This take special equipment and special handling and just this alone will cost tax payers thousands.

It's things like what I just listed that are the hidden costs of people using hard drugs. And those costs are placed on the shoulders of the rest of us. That's why hard drugs should never be legal.


You do realize that this is all a great argument for legalizing drugs don't you? There is a need for home-based "meth-labs" because there are no regulated facilities for manufacturing meth for retail sale.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:51 am to
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Stupidest thing I have read today



You think people on crack are a bigger problem and a bigger drain on this country than the millions of obese people with all their health problems?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:53 am to
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Meth is more common in places were other drugs are hard to find. If they have access to the much safer Cocaine, it's doubtful there would be as many methheads.


Meth is cheaper than cocaine though. That's why it's growing in popularity and becoming epidemic in many areas. And not only is it cheap, it's easy to make.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:53 am to
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I'll give you one example from the show I watched the other night on Meth. They interviewed a meth cook who's lab exploded on him. He was in Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville with 2nd & 3rd degree burns over just about his whole body. Here's what will result from this one meth cook, who btw was also an addict.

1. His care at Vandy Hospital will cost well over $1,000,000.00. Of course he has no insurance or a job. The hospital will have to absorb those costs which means those costs will be passed on to the rest of us. They interviewed one doctor at the hospital and according to him they are approaching I believe he said it was $300,000,000 a year in uncovered costs of treating drug addicts for different medical needs.

well to be fair, if meth was legal, he would never be cooking meth like that. it would be done in factories with insurance, etc

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:56 am to
There is no good argument for legalizing meth. Even if it were legal we'd still have the cost of treating those who use it. And legalizing it would not remove the fact there is a legit to be made from making it and selling it, this you'd still have people making it in underground labs.
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:57 am to
if drugs are illegal, overeating/alcohol/cigs should all be illegal too.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:57 am to
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ou do realize that this is all a great argument for legalizing drugs don't you? There is a need for home-based "meth-labs" because there are no regulated facilities for manufacturing meth for retail sale.



You dont even have to go that far with it.

Multiple studies show people do things like meth and bath salts and heroin because they cant find other drugs. Those are drugs of last resort.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:57 am to
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well to be fair, if meth was legal, he would never be cooking meth like that. it would be done in factories with insurance, etc



Cmon, people are mass producing liquor in their backyards using materials loaded with lead. I mean, it's not like industry took over and started having internal/governmental/industry standards and all that.

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'I Aimed For The Public's Heart, And. . .hit It In The Stomach'
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:58 am to
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Meth is cheaper than cocaine though.


There is a huge reason why, and Cocaine is easier to make FWIW, if you have the raw coca leaves, or the pasta basilica.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:58 am to
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SlowFlowPro



Are you are for the legalization of meth?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:58 am to
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There is no good argument for legalizing meth.


Personal freedom is always a good argument.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:58 am to
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Stupidest thing I have read today



It really isn't. Is heart disease not the number one killer of Americans?
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:59 am to
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well to be fair, if meth was legal, he would never be cooking meth like that. it would be done in factories with insurance, et


This is such a simple concept. Why do so many people have trouble understanding basic cause/effect relationships?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:59 am to
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Are you are for the legalization of meth?



I am one hundred percent for the legalization of meth. I don't use it, and will never use it.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:01 am to
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Meth is cheaper than cocaine though. That's why it's growing in popularity and becoming epidemic in many areas. And not only is it cheap, it's easy to make.


You're still making the better argument for legalization.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:03 am to
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Personal freedom is always a good argument.




Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 11:04 am to
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Cmon, people are mass producing liquor in their backyards using materials loaded with lead.


IN PLACES WHERE LIQUOR IS ILLEGAL!!
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