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re: Why are drugs and prostitution illegal?

Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:12 am to
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:12 am to
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100% wrong. sex slaves are only possible with the market being a black market. legalizing it means legitimacy, which decreases the market for sex slaves. if you support illegal prostitution, you are supporting the industry of slavery

You should look at the data more objectively, because studies show that legalization of prostitution increases the sex slave market. There are a large number of prostitutes in Amsterdam that are forced to do so by pimps. And those kinds of studies can't even begin to capture the number of women that go into prostitution from coercion; many of them later regretting the decision. And don't forget about how youth can play a negative role: many women make the choice to go into prostitution at a young age, at time in life that is well known for making bad life decisions.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:13 am to
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because a crack head has never hurt someone else. Only themselves


Fat people hurt others. So do alchoholics, people on prescription meds, and mental patients.

None of those are illegal.

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It's not like people on bath salts have eaten other peoples faces off or people on PCP have gone on killing sprees.


Psychos are going to psycho. It's not like those people were soccor moms who suddenly went nuts. The drugs didnt do that. And legal or not, people like that will find a way to get high. You don't punish everyone because of a few.


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acting like legalizing dangerous drugs won't potentially hurt innocent people is naive.


What about all the innocent people hurt by it being illegal?

And there are plenty of "dangerous drugs" that are currently legal.

One of the biggest reasons heroin is making a major comeback is because the government has tightened its regulations on prescription drugs.

You could walk into most high schools and find weed, coke, and heroin. It's easier to get those than it is to get alcohol.

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Why should that burden fall on charity hospitals and tax payers?



If you're going to use that argument then you must be for the government regulating individual calorie intake and nutritional intake for everyone right?

Because we take care of billions of dollars worth of fat fricks in the country in charity hospitals and tax payers.

Also, the taxes you garner from these things being legal could pay for the few who need help form taking them.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:13 am to
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There's also the health issues of having to help those people once they do that much harm to their bodies. Why should that burden fall on charity hospitals and tax payers?



you mean like obesity?

we subsidize that too, no one seems to mind, hell we promote being a fat arse
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:14 am to
Are you asking why things like Heroin are illegal?

Hmmm maybe because its extremely addicting and has no social benefit whatsoever. You want companies to be able to pedal heroin?
Posted by eScott
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:15 am to
We supposedly live in a society where the people vote on the laws they wish to be governed by. When the majority opinion changes, so will the laws.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:15 am to
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And those kinds of studies can't even begin to capture the number of women that go into prostitution from coercion; many of them later regretting the decision



This happens in the porn industry very often.

Hot Girls Wanted and After Porn Ends both show this and I bet it is way more wide spread than many realize.
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:15 am to
These 2 probably would agree with you

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Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:16 am to
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Hmmm maybe because its extremely addicting and has no social benefit whatsoever.


sounds like cigarettes
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:16 am to
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And don't forget about how youth can play a negative role: many women make the choice to go into prostitution at a young age, at time in life that is well known for making bad life decisions.


It's a parents job to teach them better and its a persons job to have responsibility and choose the right path.

It's not the governments job to tell you what path to choose.

And it is an insane belief that because a few people might choose the wrong path in life according to your specific beliefs, we should make something illegal.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:16 am to
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And those kinds of studies can't even begin to capture the number of women that go into prostitution from coercion; many of them later regretting the decision. And don't forget about how youth can play a negative role: many women make the choice to go into prostitution at a young age, at time in life that is well known for making bad life decisions.


guess porn should be illegal?
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:17 am to
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Making drugs readily available to the public increases the likelihood that criminals will use that abundant supply to sell to new markets - namely adults under 21 and children.


They already do that. It is easier for a 16 year old to get cocaine than beer. So it is only logical that if you applied the same laws to cocaine that you do to beer then the results would be the same.

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Making prostitution legal would increase the likelihood that women are forced into the trade as sex slaves, or because they believe it to be there only option, or because it just happens to be the easiest option.


Sometimes it is the only option and they would be much better off if the sex trade was legal. I live in St. Maarten and it is legal, they girls are required to pay taxes, get weekly STD and HIV tests, and there is a paper trail to track which makes the sex slave thing harder. It is much safer to visit a legal brothel than to order a hooker from backpage or craigslist.

It would be a different converstaion if the drug and prositituion laws worked but they don't.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:18 am to
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We supposedly live in a society where the people vote on the laws they wish to be governed by. When the majority opinion changes, so will the laws.




Unfortunately, a reality in the last decade is the majority of our country lives off of government assistance and will do whatever the government tells them to do. It's a scary thought.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:18 am to
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It is easier for a 16 year old to get cocaine than beer.


I doubt that

if you would have said weed I would have agreed, but I doubt the average 16 year old finds it easier to get cocaine than beer

Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:19 am to
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I think you're missing my point. Thats a reason why its illegal


What is a reason its illegal? People hate tax revenue and protecting women from being raped?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:19 am to
There is no real good answer. It's somewhere between legislating morality and revenue generation.

If drugs were legal I think 60% of the police force would have to take massive cuts.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:20 am to
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That's hilarious.

1st of all, the government shouldnt be involved in my personal health.

2nd of all, they should arrest fatasses who bring their kids to McDonalds. That's more harmful to society than drugs or prostitution.


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Was going to say this, but you have it covered.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:21 am to
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Fat people hurt others. So do alchoholics, people on prescription meds, and mental patients.

None of those are illegal.



I never said that doesn't happen but why would you be for increasing the amount of dangers that are out there? You already run the risk of drunk drivers at night getting loaded at a bar and driving home. Do you really want to double that up?

If there was a way to guarantee a person would only do shite at their house where they were only a harm to themselves then I would be all for it 100% but that's not realistic and I am not for endangering innocent people so Johnny can get his quick fix.

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Psychos are going to psycho. It's not like those people were soccor moms who suddenly went nuts. The drugs didnt do that. And legal or not, people like that will find a way to get high. You don't punish everyone because of a few.



Come one, man. You can't act like the drugs didn't have any hand in altering their mental state. That's exactly what drugs do in fact and it's very easy to argue that an incident may not have happened if the person wasn't on drugs.

Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:22 am to
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you mean like obesity?

we subsidize that too, no one seems to mind, hell we promote being a fat arse



Yea but again why add to the list of problems?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:22 am to
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Do you really want to double that up?


increase the punishments on crimes committed while under the influence
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:23 am to
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sounds like cigarettes



You just compare heroin to cigarettes?
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