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re: Why additional school funding isn’t the answer

Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:04 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75962 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:04 am to
lol, it is nearly the exact same money scheme.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:05 am to
Throwing money at the problem isn’t the problem.

The problem is we’re not throwing ENOUGH money at the problem.

We just need to throw more money at the schools to help the effort to dissuade the corruption and perpetuation of illegitimacy.

You’re welcome. I’ve figured it out. I’m goin’ on break.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:05 am to
We educate everyone the same. Everyone has the same opportunities. Our central government doesn’t distribute resources based on educational potential like those other countries do, and that’s something people don’t like to talk about.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75962 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:06 am to
The principals in Texas at these large ISDs make $150-175k. Superintendents make 200k+. That isn’t explainable no matter how you spin it chief
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 7:09 am
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39313 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:08 am to
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Ray Nagin, death. Congressman Jefferson, death.
Maybe with a super stiff penalty instead a couple of years in a club Fed corruption could be weeded out.
or, you know, instead of over kill we could just simply do away with the club fed type place and make everyone that’s in jail be in the same dingy place that would deter them from committing crimes.

That’s just me though.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60158 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:11 am to
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No. It proves that some people need to go to jail.

Agreed. Most of the kids in public school
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:12 am to
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The principals in Texas at these large ISDs make $150-175k. Superintendents make 200k+. That isn’t explainable no matter how you spin it chief


And the vast majority of them earn every penny of their salaries.

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60265 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:13 am to
Fraud can be a big problem but school funding is really a school-by-school issue as some could definitely use more funds while others can need a replacement of administrative and/or teaching personnel.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36762 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:15 am to
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And the vast majority of them earn every penny of their salaries.



The superintendent earns $300k+ but has absolutely earned it since he manages an enrollment size of 60k+ and we have a top 10 ISD in Texas.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32328 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:15 am to
The high IQ voters in Louisiana continue to re-elect known criminals. It’s almost a vote of confidence. We elected EWE 4 times (known, later convicted), our fine residents of NBR just returned Cleo to office, in spite of him on video accepting a sack full of cash, and on and on. And re-elected a trial lawyer governor that was funded by a consortium of crooks that pay off judges and prevent legal reform bc they’ve become multimillionaires from gaming the system.

EBR collects on the order of 50% more per student per year than equivalent school districts in Houston for 50% of their performance. Yet, they want to run Exxon out of town because they aren’t tithing enough.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141204 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:16 am to
My wife is a retired teacher. The central office at her school district has 80% of it's employees making 6 figures, while the average teacher is making $50K.

She spent an average of $500 a year on supplies for her classroom out of pocket.

I'm not saying that more money isn't needed, but just like with most govt entities, there is a ton of waste/fraud/abuse that needs to be addressed.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75962 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:16 am to
the frick they do.

They deserve a third of that. Outside of that one career field, where are they getting paid half that? They aren’t
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:17 am to
How many people are the principals in these large ISD’s managing? 50? 75? 100+?

What would a person who manages 50+ college educated employees responsible for an entity with a budget in the $5,000,000-10,000,000 be paid?

How many schools under a superintendent? How much is each school’s budget?

All I’m saying is that good management is worth every penny spent on them. The problem is that bag management in public schools is very hard, damn near impossible, to fire and usually requires 2-3x their salary per year just to mitigate their poor management. Hence even worse spending problems.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:19 am to
quote:

I'm not saying that more money isn't needed, but just like with most govt entities, there is a ton of waste/fraud/abuse that needs to be addressed.


Absofrickinglutely
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:21 am to
Even then is that enough? A state governor can literally sell a Senate appointment and still get his sentence commuted. Even after conviction .
Can't be raised from the dead.

Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:21 am to
quote:

They deserve a third of that. Outside of that one career field, where are they getting paid half that? They aren’t


Curious: have you ever managed a campus with 2500+ students (and deal with their parents) and 200+ teachers, administrators and staff?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:22 am to
Any numb nut with a teaching degree can. They should only make $45k

ETA
Sarcasm
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 7:24 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75962 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:29 am to
Don’t be dramatic. None of these principles are managing students. Their 5+ assistant principles are in charge of that.

You and Oilfield know that or should. Which tells me a lot about how much you know about how things actually take place at these sized schools. eta: not sarcasm
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 7:30 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138855 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:29 am to
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Klark Kent


Sounds to me like you are having some serious career regret
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75962 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:31 am to
I’m O&G in Texas, my wife is the teacher. try again
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