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re: Who here was whipped as a child but doesn't whip their own children now?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:No thanks, you've talked in circles and boxed yourself in, i'm good here.
You don't.
Do your homework and we'll go over it later.
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:25 pm to shel311
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You may need to come back after lunch and explain how if-then is reasoning, spanking works because if-then. But kids can't reason.
I already did it for him earlier. Reasoning =/=reasoning with
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:27 pm to CoachChappy
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I already did it for him earlier. Reasoning =/=reasoning with
Yeah, that's an erroneous distinction.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:29 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I already did it for him earlier. Reasoning =/=reasoning with
Yeah, that's an erroneous distinction.
So basic cognitive reasoning ei. I touch fire and understand it hurts is the exact same as being able to understand an explanation (in a language that I don't understand) that fire is hot and will hurt me if I touch it?
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:29 pm to shel311
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explain how if-then is reasoning
You need to figure out what reasoning is and what if-then means.
Do that and we can continue. I even offered to check your work.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:30 pm to toosleaux
I got the occasional spanking. Didn't really need them. I had two older siblings that I saw get wore out on multiple occasions. Scared me straight.
I have and will spank my children, but I rarely need to. The key to good corporal punishment is not slap them for every little thing they do wrong. It has to be purpose defiance before I will spank them. And it has to hurt. And if you have more than one kid, it's good to let the younger ones watch. My youngest kid is always on his best behavior for a few days after his sister got spanked.
I have and will spank my children, but I rarely need to. The key to good corporal punishment is not slap them for every little thing they do wrong. It has to be purpose defiance before I will spank them. And it has to hurt. And if you have more than one kid, it's good to let the younger ones watch. My youngest kid is always on his best behavior for a few days after his sister got spanked.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:no thanks, your work can't be trusted given you're talking in circles and boxing yourself in, I'm good here.
You need to figure out what reasoning is and what if-then means.
Do that and we can continue. I even offered to check your work.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:31 pm to CoachChappy
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So basic cognitive reasoning ei. I touch fire and understand it hurts is the exact same as being able to understand an explanation (in a language that I don't understand) that fire is hot and will hurt me if I touch it?
No, we've discussed this already.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I even offered to check your work.
You have to understand the question and know the answer before you can check someone else's work. The empty bravado is cute though.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:35 pm to Mo Jeaux
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No, we've discussed this already.
Good. Then we have talked ourselves in circles and are done.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:37 pm to toosleaux
Too risky to do it these days. You don't want to end up in a situation like Adrian Peterson.
I feel like taking things away from kids does the trick. I also am not convinced that whippings made me a better person. I always felt like I preferred a whipping over grounding or having something taken away.
I feel like taking things away from kids does the trick. I also am not convinced that whippings made me a better person. I always felt like I preferred a whipping over grounding or having something taken away.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:40 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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And it has to hurt. And if you have more than one kid, it's good to let the younger ones watch. My youngest kid is always on his best behavior for a few days after his sister got spanked.
I cant imagine how a person could willingly hurt their child for any reason, and the rest of your statement is pretty disturbing as well.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:42 pm to toosleaux
quote:ME!!! ... but they are in their 40s and would kick my old arse.
but doesn't whip their own children now?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:49 pm to EA6B
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I cant imagine how a person could willingly hurt their child for any reason, and the rest of your statement is pretty disturbing as well.
well my father did it with no remorse. And he is the greatest man and father I could have ever had/known.
a spanking that doesn't hurt might as well be a " time-out"
and if you don't think kids learn from seeing their siblings catch a whipping, then there is no hope for you. I learned a lot about what to do and not to do based on how much hell my siblings caught for their actions.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 1:52 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:He didn't say they won't learn from it. I'm sure he agrees that watching your older sibling be physically abused will certainly teach you a lesson.
and if you don't think kids learn from seeing their siblings catch a whipping, then there is no hope for you.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:00 pm to EA6B
Fear is an excellent motivator/deterrent.
I can't roll my eyes hard enough. The sting lasts for minutes. You aren't hurting them.
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I cant imagine how a person could willingly hurt their child for any reason,
I can't roll my eyes hard enough. The sting lasts for minutes. You aren't hurting them.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:08 pm to shel311
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He didn't say they won't learn from it. I'm sure he agrees that watching your older sibling be physically abused will certainly teach you a lesson
where did I say "abused"? What is wrong with you people? What perverted universe do you live in where every physical disciplinary act is and act of barbarism? It is possible to spank a child without committing abuse. And not every parent who spanks a child is wailing away on them. I dont' disagree that spanking should be a last resort. but sometimes it is necessary and- take a deep breath- acceptable.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
If you want to answer the questions for him, I'll allow it.
Explain what you think reasoning is, and also what you think if-then means.
Explain what you think reasoning is, and also what you think if-then means.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:14 pm to shel311
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no thanks
So basically we have a few people who are unwilling or unable to learn, trying to tell people how children should learn.
I love it.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:15 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:Well, if you follow the posts quoted, it originally said "it has to hurt"
where did I say "abused"?
Punishing by hurting is basically the literal definition of abuse, so...
quote:No, not if your intent is to hurt/inflict pain. What universe are you living in where you think you can inflict pain on a child by hitting them and that is NOT abuse?
It is possible to spank a child without committing abuse.
quote:Nope, but the ones that say "it has to hurt" are, every one of them are, 100%.
And not every parent who spanks a child is wailing away on them.
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