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White and Asian students in California schools self-segregate

Posted on 7/20/15 at 4:55 pm
Posted by euphemus
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 4:55 pm
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To say that whites resented Asians or Asians resented whites would be a gross exaggeration of a largely utopian merger. Youth soccer leagues were run by parents of multiple ethnicities: Indian, white, Chinese, Korean. Often, they were co-workers in their fields. Parental involvement was unified in activities spanning from musicals to the Parent-Teacher Association.

But it was in academics where one could smell the distinct coded scent of a split. There’s a nearby high school called Lynbrook, which by now is probably upwards of 90 percent Asian. I had a friend there who used to joke that they called the white people “the few five.” Everyone knew the one black student by name.

The Wall Street Journal came out with an article in 2005 documenting “The New White Flight,” a twist on the term used to describe the phenomena of white people moving out of poor neighborhoods, taking their tax dollars with them, and often leaving largely black schools derelict and underfunded. At Lynbrook and nearby schools, the Journal writes, whites weren’t quitting schools because the schools were bad. And they weren’t harming them academically when they left; more Asians just moved in.

“Quite the contrary,” the article read. “Many white parents say they’re leaving because the schools are too academically driven and too narrowly invested in subjects such as math and science at the expense of liberal arts and extracurricular activities like sports and other personal interests. The two schools, put another way that parents rarely articulate so bluntly, are too Asian.”

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This didn’t reflect so much on the tutor as on the culture, because people agreed with him—the white student didn’t play football, he didn’t party, and his friends were almost all Asian as well. Especially in the higher grades, as classes began to diversify between difficult and easier, the racial self-segregation based on academic lines began to emerge in even greater clarity. White kids played football, smoked weed, and hooked up on the weekends. Asians studied and took Instagram photos at McDonald’s. (Interestingly, though, the Indians at my school were said to have a pretty raucous party scene. Cannot confirm, as I was never invited.)

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This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Manzielathon
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 4:56 pm to
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self-segregate


Free country man
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 4:57 pm to
Yella Privilege?
Posted by CuseTiger
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 4:58 pm to
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Many white parents say they’re leaving because the schools are too academically driven and too narrowly invested in subjects such as math and science at the expense of liberal arts and extracurricular activities like sports and other personal interests.

So underwater basket weaving > chemistry?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:00 pm to
Yeah, it's a real shame that kids are learning about calculus and physics instead of painting and playing the recorder.
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:03 pm to
My brother in law's parents were in from CA over the weekend. His mom is a raging liberal and she mentioned that all races in CA do this, like it's no big deal.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:07 pm to
Then more schools should become more Asian, because the shitshow that's considered academics in US high schools and universities is doing this country no favors.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:08 pm to
I would strategically sit behind Asians at LSU for scantron test days in Accounting and Econ. Took me about 2 minutes to figure out how to bust the "staggered test packet" scheme that the professors came up with - usually my page 1 would be like their page 4 or their page 7 depending on the color.

I feel like this selective integration that I fostered helped the climate immensely.

This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:10 pm to
Cheating in accounting and economics? No wonder you're a liberal
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:33 pm to
I have a degree in finance and did the same. I wouldn't call what I did cheating, I would just check theirs to make sure mine were right. I knew their answers were right, lol. I eventually just started studying with the Korean girl that had a thing for black guys.
Posted by Monday
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:33 pm to
What am I supposed to feel offended about?
Posted by BobABooey
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:13 pm to
This is going on in Plano, TX. People are attracted because the schools are some of the highest ranked in the state. That sounds great until you see why from the inside. Classes are becoming increasingly non-Caucasian and the majority of students are Asian or Indian. 20% of the children in one of my kid's class are Caucasian. These kids are known as "professional students" because of the rigid routines imposed by their parents. Beginning in elementary school, the kids have tutored classes and at least one day of their weekend is spent in class.

Extracurricular sports are frowned upon; however, most kids take years of music lessons and are quite proficient at the instrument of their choice (as long as that instrument is the piano or violin). Participation in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts is dropping but it takes a merit badge to find a parking space in the library parking lot on a weekend. Teachers have to get their spouses to act as chaperones on field trips because that's just something that many in the Asian or Indian cultures don't do.

My biggest worry is the fact that acceptance to many Texas universities depends on whether you are in the top 15% of your class, for example. My children are in advanced placement programs and do very well in school but I think it's expecting too much of them to compete in this environment while also experiencing the same types of activities I did while growing up. I don't think that our culture is superior to their culture or vice versa. They are just different.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:24 pm to
They simply place a premium on education.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:29 pm to
I went to school in the area this article was talking about. The Asians stayed on their own quad on the other side of the school and did Asian shite. The whites/blacks/Mexicans intermingled for the most part. Our school was 60% Asian and it's almost like they weren't there ( I'm sure they'd have said the same about the rest of us).
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 3:22 am
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:48 pm to
Asians are the most racist of all. That's clear.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:51 pm to
This has been going on for years..how is this an issue now ?

That's why I think schools should consider more holistic approaches to admissions -- test scores are going up for many tests all around the country. Are our kids smarter or are they just better prepared and better test takers ?

I feel like there are lessons in extracurriculars that alegbra or AP physics will never teach kids olr force them to apply it
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 7:12 pm to
While I'm not a liberal arts apologist and I think we likely need more emphasis on STEM, we should be careful not to do so at the expense of the humanities.

I think there's a reason that even though Asia dominates the West for technical education and has for some time now, we still seem to have a pretty substantial edge in innovation, notwithstanding some clear superiority in different industries like automotive and consumer tech Japan enjoyed in the 80s and 90s. A lot of our outperformance can be based on structural advantages (free economy, way more liberal financial sector), but there is something embedded in critical thinking and problem solving that is abstract and goes beyond computational ability. Surely some liberal arts background can aid in that. A lot of math can be automated now anyway. I have no clue how to calculate r-squared with a pen and paper but I know it's a measure of correlation and I can do it in Excel in a few seconds. I'm inclined to think it's similar in practical application for many engineering disciplines.

I have never been to Asia but I have heard anecdotal evidence from friends that have worked there for short spells that seem to back that assertion. People have told me that anytime an issue arises, folks over there aren't adept at thinking of alterative solutions, etc. And then there's the whole thing about the Chinese supposedly being terrible at reverse engineering our military technology.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 7:18 pm to
i had some asian friends in high school and i was allowed over when they told their parents my GPA and then i got them in trouble for being better in math than t hem. also one of my friends (taiwanese) had a grandpa living with them from the island. he had a chest full of (soft core) porn
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80878 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

This is going on in Plano, TX. People are attracted because the schools are some of the highest ranked in the state. That sounds great until you see why from the inside. Classes are becoming increasingly non-Caucasian and the majority of students are Asian or Indian. 20% of the children in one of my kid's class are Caucasian. These kids are known as "professional students" because of the rigid routines imposed by their parents. Beginning in elementary school, the kids have tutored classes and at least one day of their weekend is spent in class.

Extracurricular sports are frowned upon; however, most kids take years of music lessons and are quite proficient at the instrument of their choice (as long as that instrument is the piano or violin). Participation in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts is dropping but it takes a merit badge to find a parking space in the library parking lot on a weekend. Teachers have to get their spouses to act as chaperones on field trips because that's just something that many in the Asian or Indian cultures don't do.

My biggest worry is the fact that acceptance to many Texas universities depends on whether you are in the top 15% of your class, for example. My children are in advanced placement programs and do very well in school but I think it's expecting too much of them to compete in this environment while also experiencing the same types of activities I did while growing up. I don't think that our culture is superior to their culture or vice versa. They are just different.


Mon Dieu! Quelle horreur!
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80878 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:47 pm to
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Asians are the most racist of all. That's clear.


So?
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