re: White and Asian students in California schools self-segregate

The Texas high school thing is a bit of a conundrum . When my kids are seniors , I'm going to rent a ghetto apartment in a POS school district where a 3.1 GPA is easily in the top 10% of that senior class in that high school. UT or A&M acceptance ... No problem .

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That's why I think schools should consider more holistic approaches to admissions -- test scores are going up for many tests all around the country. Are our kids smarter or are they just better prepared and better test takers ?

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I am an Indian and have very good Indian and Chinese friends. So I kind of know about both the cultures. I think Asian/Indian kids are just better prepared. I have mentioned this in other thread before, part of the reason is the premium Asian/Indian parents put in their kids' education. Asian/Indian parents see is as a personal failure if their kids do not succeed.

I also think the whole idea that Asian/Indian diaspora has a superiority complex (as far as education is concerned) as well as insecurity about educational success is true (I am referring to LINK).

I am a first generation immigrant, and what I see in my peers is that part of the "success story" of immigrant life is making sure your children achieve more than what you did. Many immigrant families expect more from their kids simply because in their view, the kids should be able to achieve more than what they did as the kids have exponentially more resources and opportunities in USA compared to what the parents had in their own countries.

All these raises an interesting point in my mind:

Lets assume holistic approach happens. Even then, what is the reason to believe Asian and Indian parents will not figure out some way to game that approach and making sure their kids are adequately prepared to excel under those "holistic" criteria (what ever it might be)?

That was subtle

So back to separate but equal days?

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I would strategically sit behind Asians at LSU for scantron test days in Accounting and Econ. Took me about 2 minutes to figure out how to bust the "staggered test packet" scheme that the professors came up with - usually my page 1 would be like their page 4 or their page 7 depending on the color.

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I did this once in high school for a calculus class that I needed to graduate that also had an absolutely terrible and impossible teacher that was a complete douchebag. I knew it was important and the difference between a 5th year and graduation/freedom but I just couldn't give a shite about it because I suck arse at math. So I took the easy way out and it worked out for me, he was spot on on his tests, I never got caught and I graduated. It's not like it was a chronic issue, it was just throwing shite on the wall to see if it stuck in a POS class.

Lol, looking back on it, I know that I was a stupid kid but I took this gift and made something out of myself and that includes a degree in a worthwhile field.

I graduated in 09 and our lunch room was segregated. The blacks had their 4 tables and the whites had the rest. Of course one or two sat at those tables but for the majority the lunch room always was segregated.