re: Which special force has the most rigorous training ?

who is guarding the Nukes in Turkey?

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Task Force Clinton

Air Force pararescue. I think it's 2 years long or something along those lines and the have to complete training similar to delta, seals, and force recon.


To become a PJ or CCT you must male, a proficient swimmer, meet physical standards of at least 100 points on the Physical Ability and Stamina Test (PAST). This job is open to only enlisted troops. Here are the specifics minimums to becoming a PJ and Combat Control tech but the numbers in the parenthesis are recommended scores from Spec Ops trainers:

- 2 x 25 m sub surface swim no time limit
- 500 m swim 10:07 or less (sub 9 min)
- 30 min rest
- 1.5 mile run 9:47 or less (sub 9 min)
- 10 min rest
- 10 pull ups min (20 )
- 2 min rest
- 58 sit ups min (100 )
- 2 min rest
- 54 push ups min (100

Iron Man Standards:
- 2 x 25 m sub surface
- 500 m swim 9:30
- 1.5 mile run 9:30
- 13 pull ups
- 65 sit ups
- 65 push ups

Once again - these are the minimum scores for the PAST - to be accepted into any Special Force it takes a higher score to be competitive. I would recommend being able to the numbers in parenthesis next to the minimum scores.

Once in the PJ Candidate Course, you will be challenged physically for ten weeks in Lackland AFB, Texas. The first phase is known as Team Training and is 8 weeks long. It consists of extensive physical training with swimming, running, weight training, calisthenics and obstacle courses. Educational training such as medical and diving terminology, CPR, weapons qualifications, and dive physics are also part of the Candidate Course.

After the Candidate Course there are two different professions with two different pipelines (but similar) to follow depending on if you want to be a PJ or CCT. Here is the PJ and CCT pipeline of training:

- US Army Airborne School - 3 weeks
- US Army Combat Divers School - 4 weeks
- US Navy Underwater Egress Training - 1 day
- US Air Force Basic Survival School - 2.5 weeks
- US Army Free-fall Parachutist School - 5 weeks

PJ Pipeline Different Schools

- Special Operations Combat Medic Course - 22 weeks
- Pararescue Recovery Specialist Course - 20 weeks

CCT Pipeline Different Schools

Combat Control Orientation Course, Lackland AFB, Texas -10 days

- Combat Control Operator Course - 15.5 weeks
- Combat Control School - 12 weeks

For more info see the Official AF website: AFPJ and CCT.

Training is extremely challenging both physically and mentally, but if you graduate and wear the maroon beret (PJ) or the scarlet beret (CCT), you will be one of the most highly trained combat medics in the world, able to handle the most stressful situations with ease. Hats off to those who risk their lives to be the First There so That Others May Live.

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CIA Special Activities Division LINK

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Maybe, but SAD took guys straight out of the 75th or USMC I believe. The invasion of Afghanistan gave people a real insight as to how CIA direct action people work in the modern era. As I recall, they were almost always embedded with ODA guys. At this stage, I suspect that in most situations SAD guys are with DEVGRU or Delta on the really fringe stuff, but who knows. I think we know now that DEVGRU did training at Harvey Point for the Bin Laden raid, so that kind of lines up with a more collaborative approach (although if the CIA is maintaining SAD operators who can truly act independently for a raid like that, I'm sure they wouldn't be used for an operation of that magnitude that was going to go public).

As for regular SF, the couple group guys I know are really smart, almost dorky. I think there is a huge gulf between ODAs and Delta in philosophy, or at least it seems like that from the outside.

If also add that Army SF fleeces the best infantry NCOs from the regular army and that hurts them pretty bad.

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Army Rangers-Pretty badass from my experience. Comparable to Marine Infantry IMO.

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What?

Looks like a decent warm-up. Let me know when you post the real workouts.

Marines are not Special Ops. They have 2 groups within the Marines that are their spec ops groups: Force recon, and Raiders.

Ranger school is not especially difficult, lots of people go through Ranger school similar to how people go to airborne or air assault school.

As to the differences between Army, Navy, and Air Force units, I think it's splitting hairs. Each unit has a different role and their training coincides. If I had to bet, I'd say BUDs is probably the most difficult but completing any of them is a major accomplishment.

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You realize that's 2 different branches right?

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There were people who did that during Vietnam. People can change branches.