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re: Which special force has the most rigorous training ?

Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:46 am to
Just in the name of accuracy. If you write their name it's proper to capitalize SEAL.
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:48 am to
SEALs-Army SF that can swim. Although they have different missions than SF, they recieve similar training and are not on the level of Delta unless we're talking about DEVGRU.
Army SF/Marine Marsoc- Same thing
Delta- The shite you'll never hear about
Air Force PJs- legit training. Mission history? frickin LOL
Army Rangers-Pretty badass from my experience. Comparable to Marine Infantry IMO. Although Rangers have a bigger budget and get cooler shite/better ops.
Marine Recon- Tries to emulate SEAL training but they simply don't get the same time or budget. Pretty underrated group all around.

Any more questions, just go to your local bar and talk to one of the SEALs there. They'll be the one at the bar telling every. single. person. in there that they were/are a SEAL.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 11:12 am
Posted by fisherbm1112
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:48 am to
They have some specialized groups that are mixes of the best of the best that go through some very specialized training on top of what they already have. So probably them.
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:49 am to
Boy Scout troop B out of Albany, La. some back little mofos.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:50 am to
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SEALS-Army SF that can swim


You know nothing about SF
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:54 am to
Yeah it's hard to make an apples to apples comparison because some are entry level and some are a ramp up of existing condition, i.e. you're already trained and a badass when you enter.
Posted by TigerinSC
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:56 am to
I know, and SF Q-school is an 18 month course, after you've already completed a 17 week infantry OSUT, and a 24 day selection process.
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:56 am to
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You know nothing about SF


SEALs don't get as extensive training in the languages, medic, or weaponry but SQT is no joke from what i've been told. Different missions, but I feel it's a pretty accurate statement.

I've worked with ODA on training ops, but didn't deploy with them. Some "dog handler" buddies of mine went to the Ghan with them though. Very humble group compared to the others out there. All around some pretty good guys.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 8:59 am
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:57 am to
The baddest branch is the branch none of us has ever heard about. They are out there. They're are some that work alone. Anyway that was told to me by an ex SF guy i used to know.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:57 am to
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SEALS


Also it should be SEALs with a small s at the end.


ETA: Now I'm just being a dick.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 8:58 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:59 am to
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SEALs don't get as extensive training in the languages, medic, or weaponry but SQT is no joke from what i've been told. Different missions, but I feel it's a pretty accurate statement.

I've worked with ODA on training ops, but didn't deploy with them. Some "dog handler" buddies of mine went to the Ghan with them though. Very humble group compared to the others out there. All around some pretty good guys. Never liked SEALs at all. Cocky for no reason.



I was directing my comment to your "but can swim" post. There are designated SCUBA/Dive teams in SF.
Posted by ragacamps
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:01 am to
Delta
Delta
Delta
Posted by TigerinSC
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:01 am to
Army Rangers are NOT the same thing as Marine infantry lol.
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:05 am to
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I was directing my comment to your "but can swim" post. There are designated SCUBA/Dive teams in SF.


I was aware of that but didn't think it was mandatory. Just more of a voluntary training if you wanted to get your dive bubble or work with a maritime capable unit.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:12 am to
CIA Special Activities Division LINK

You can't go any higher than them. The best of the best. They are legitimate Jason Bourne dudes.

Select from the best of these guys
quote:

SOG is generally considered the most secretive special operations force in the United States. The group selects operatives from other tier one special mission units such as Delta Force, DEVGRU, ISA, and 24th STS, as well as other United States special operations forces, such as USNSWC, MARSOC, US Army Special Forces, SEALs, SWCC, Force Recon, Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, and the Army Rangers.


And learn this
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This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 9:27 am
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:13 am to
Coast guard A School
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:13 am to
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Army Rangers are NOT the same thing as Marine infantry lol.



No, but comparing Marine infantry to Rangers would be a better comparison than comparing Marine infantry to Army infantry.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:14 am to
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I was aware of that but didn't think it was mandatory. Just more of a voluntary training if you wanted to get your dive bubbl


SEALs and Army SF are worlds apart. They shouldn't even be compared side by side.
Posted by TigerinSC
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:23 am to
Why is that? So you're telling me that Marine infantrymen are better than the guys in the 82d and the 101st? I have enjoyed working with Marine Corp infantry and they are good, but not better than any of those other guys.
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:24 am to
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SEALs and Army SF are worlds apart. They shouldn't even be compared side by side.


Sorry. I wasn't aware there were so many Tier 1 operators on this board. Figured I could provide some insight since i've worked with a lot of those. Clearly you guys' "friend who was a Ranger, then SEAL, then Delta during Nam" would have more insight.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 9:27 am
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