re: Which finished Britain as a world power: WW2 or Suez Crisis?

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Idk, when did women get the right to vote and hold political office in Britain?

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1918 for chicks over 30, 1928 was 21 and up.

But, it was always going to fall apart. The "caste" system crippled it and created class divisions (London vs the Northern working class.) If you read "The Psychology of Military Incompetence,") most of the examples of failures are British. It reveals a corrosive attitude among the English ruling class.

Montgomery planned his Rhine crossing for two months. Had to have overwhelming numerical superiority and everything had to be just right. Great if you are fighting in the trenches, not great if you are fighting mobile warfare.

Patton crosses in one night and steams ahead while Monty sat and planned away. Monty wanted Patton fired.

Churchill had to straighten Monty out. In his memoirs, Churchill realized the concept of war had changed and Montgomery had failed to change with it. Never looked at Montgomery the same way after that.

1776 - beginning of the end

US defeats long time world super power.

USA super power by 1945

USA Uniglobal superpower 2016

We were the only serious naval power in the aftermath of WWII who could be as effective if not more than the Royal Navy

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WWI started it. WW2 finished it.

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Yep, the final nail was Patton dragging his nuts over Montgomery going into Germany.

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They became powerful via other people's productivity.

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The British? No sir! British power in the 19th century was based on British productivity which, due to the industrial revolution, was by far the highest in the world. Napoleon tirelessly tried to force all of Europe into his “Continental System”, which was an economic zone that excluded British trade. He couldn’t do it because British goods were so superior, and so much less expensive, than any others, it created too much financial incentive to cheat and risk Napoleon’s wrath.

Further, in 1805 the British declared war on the slave trade. They committed real resources and treasure to stopping it.

Follow up question, when we should yall say Britain was at the height of it's power?

Post WWI.
They were still raping the far east, Africa. The royal family were heads of state, governors, and monarchs across the globe, all connected by the Merchant Navy.

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Hitler mortally wounded the British Empire at the cost of literally everything

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Which is ironic because he originally didn’t really have beef with the UK.

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Joining the EU with the immigration that came with it is finishing them off.

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Yes the EU’s lax immigration policies were certainly a problem but Brexit made the immigration issue way worse. In the EU they had Poles and Romanians, now that cheap labor has been replaced by 3rd worlders (never mind that Poland is beginning to surpass the UK in quality of life metrics anyway). The level of immigration also rocketed up post-Brexit under Tory leadership. So people who thought they were voting for less immigrants wound up in a much worse situation.