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re: Which Baton Rouge-area bridge crossing option is the best?

Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:38 am to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Congrats on Baton Rouge getting a new bridge. But curious why LADOTD is soliciting input from an LSU message board?



The responses are cheaper and more realistic than what the studies were providing I guess.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:41 am to
The bottom one is meh, but the rest are all fine. The bigger issue is how they are tied in to I-10/12
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:59 am to
Option 1 should be the only consideration...with interstate-grade connection on the north side to LA 415 at I-10 and the same on the south side from LA 30 to I-10.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20254 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:05 pm to
Why can tolls only fund 17% of the cost?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Why can tolls only fund 17% of the cost?



I want to know what timetable they are using for this....and how they are estimating traffic counts without knowing the bridge placement.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:15 pm to
We should forego the bridge for now and deal with the underlining problem---total traffic on I-10.

We need a toll road running from I-59 through St. Fancisville on to intersect I-10 at Vinton. (Zack Taylor Parkway)

Such and east west alternative would take a HUGE amount of traffic off of I-10 and would allow a perimeter to be built around BR. Two roads one east and one west of the river could connect I-10 to the Parkway becoming a perimeter.

A new bridge will not by itself alleviate the traffic clogs in BR.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:25 pm to
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A new bridge will not by itself alleviate the traffic clogs in BR.



The bridge is needed. And before your proposal takes shape, the completion of I-49 through Lafayette to New Orleans needs to happen.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35883 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:28 pm to
How much would that cost IB?
How long would it take?
How much traffic would it redirect around BR?

I think it's too expensive and wouldn't do enough for the BR metro area.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:31 pm to
Something nobody discusses when talking BR I-10 traffic problems is a loop around LAFAYETTE. If there was a loop around the west side of Lafayette, connecting Duson to south of Youngsville on I49/90, a good bit of I10 traffic bound to New Orleans would take that route. Would sure beat the crapshoot that is the basin, or being stuck on the west side of the bridge.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6722 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:37 pm to
The southern-most crossing. There should be a large enough gap between the current I-10 bridge and the proposed, but not too close to the Sunshine Bridge
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:38 pm to
quote:


We should forego the bridge for now and deal with the underlining problem---total traffic on I-10.

We need a toll road running from I-59 through St. Fancisville on to intersect I-10 at Vinton. (Zack Taylor Parkway)


IB is wrong about 85% of the time, but the idea of a "Louisiana turnpike" with few exits and tolled access running north of I-10/I-12 is actually a great idea.

100 years from now, twice the amount of freight as we see today will have to move on our congested highways and railways. A divided 4 lane turnpike with controlled exits at least 8-10 miles apart would help future-proof Louisiana's freight distribution network despite any amount of sprawl that would occur in Baton Rouge, Lafayette, or New Orleans (It's extremely unlikely that the proposed I-14 highway that would run through Alexandria and Natchez will ever be built).

That kind of turnpike setup works well in PA and NJ to discourage local traffic and provide a clear path for trucks. The key is to not allow an exit at every town or road crossing.

I'm 100% on board with what he is mentioning above, but I don't think it would eliminate the need for a new bridge around Plaquemine.

Bonus points if said turnpike went beyond I-59 and somehow tied into the highway network around Mobile. That would make freight movements on the gulf coast much more efficient and could take a lot of traffic off I-10 and I-12. There is simply too much dependency on I-10 and I-12 right now all over the gulf coast.

quote:

A new bridge will not by itself alleviate the traffic clogs in BR.


It could help tremendously, especially in building in system redundancy and alternative routes when things get clogged on the existing highway network.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:39 pm to
I’m guessing this would include making 30 4 lanes? And does it include a light in front of UC?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:39 pm to
Yes, that would be great, but it could happen in addition to new bridge(s) as part of a loop.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Something nobody discusses when talking BR I-10 traffic problems is a loop around LAFAYETTE.


Because the topic of discussion is reducing traffic in Baton Rouge.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:28 pm to
Find a way to build a brand new east bound bridge right next the the current one then keep using the old I10 bridge for all west bound traffic. Knock down the concrete wall so it’s 4 lanes flowing west bound into WBR.

It could work.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14394 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:48 pm to
Where is St. Gabrielle?
Did the east bank municipality of a similar name have become trans? OR, is this a hoax?
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 1:53 pm to
5 is a no brainier. 3 next

quote:

Tunnel under the Mississippi, one that would make houma envious
LADOTD wont build another tunnel. They want to decommission the existing ones.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

That kind of turnpike setup works well in PA and NJ to discourage local traffic and provide a clear path for trucks. The key is to not allow an exit at every town or road crossing.


That's the problem. Every corrupt mayor of every podunk town is going to be fighting to get the routing through their shithole with an exit. The corrupt politicians at higher levels will get the right money from corrupt people at lower levels and everyone will get their piece.

A chicken in every pot.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:45 pm to
5 is by far the best option, but the fact that they mispelled St. Gabriel that many times makes me think some random guy got paid alot to draw some colorful lines onna map.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:50 pm to
The one that is farthest out. No need to build something to close that would be obsolete from the start.
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