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re: When will it be announced that the BRPD officers are not going to jail?
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:27 pm to igotit
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:27 pm to igotit
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I have a feeling these guys aren't getting off. Hope I'm wrong. But there's a lot of pressure to make an example out of someone. And, the Justice Department is involved.
The DOJ will be involved no matter what. Hell, they're probably involved now. I think it will depend on the evidence they present. We haven't heard much but I'd be interested to see what, if anything the surveillance vid shows.
I still think they'll get off. A guy reaching for a gun is a pretty good argument for a clean kill.
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Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:27 pm to Asgard Device
You also have police department that is not allowing the protestors to dictate the terms.. They are squashing momentum by making lawful arrests without discrimination on small offenses.. The more dangerous locals don't really want any part of that for a myriad reasons especially those with outstanding warrants.. Leaving the protesting and anger to what seem like a lot of women and male protestors that aren't dangerous.. This strategy by the BRPd is working but it's also very dangerous if something goes wrong..
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:28 pm to Sidicous
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Grand Jury would take a month or more to assemble, set schedules, hear testimony, reach decision, etc..
Most jurisdictions have scheduled grand juries and they just add cases to the dockets. It shouldn't take the grand jury more than 3 days (probably less than 2 days) to here the case and vote.
Honestly, I don't even seeing this going to grand jury....it easily fits into the standard for lethal force.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:32 pm to markasaurus
No shite Sherlock. Just making a statement
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:40 pm to theenemy
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Most jurisdictions have scheduled grand juries and they just add cases to the dockets
You think they'd go ahead with a regular GJ even under the DOJ pressure? Would be better for quelling the racists and hystericals to call a Special GJ and drag it out (if DOJ getting all up in the BR bidniz with their own agenda(s)). Let the wheels of Justice turn as slowly as possible if it is gonna be some Clinton-esque kinda bullshite justice.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:41 pm to Asgard Device
DOJ is going to say there's no federal violations. So they'll return the case to 19th JDC. Hillar will recuse himself and appoint a special prosecutor to investigate. Likely a dem and/or black attorney. Special prosecutor will come back with no charges.
People will still riot.
People will still riot.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 11:42 pm to baybeefeetz
I saw a report today where in 2009 Alton Sterling did exactly the same thing and did pull a gun on the officer. It's real and circulating around. If the officer who shot him was aware of this, and I'm sure they were, it's over. It will be a short investigation.
Black Lives Matters is throwing Hail Marys with very little chance of any conviction. Neither this or Minnesota will go to trial. The uninformed minorities and self hating millennialist will whine but that won't change the facts.
Black Lives Matters is throwing Hail Marys with very little chance of any conviction. Neither this or Minnesota will go to trial. The uninformed minorities and self hating millennialist will whine but that won't change the facts.
This post was edited on 7/10/16 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:33 am to Asgard Device
What need to happen here is that this thing is pushed as long as possible to like Spring next year, no leaks about it and only canned and sparsely thin official statements from the people handling it, and then drop the case like James Comey dropped the Clinton case but much quieter like news dump on a Friday evening with a simple press release and make it unannounced.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:52 am to Dominate308
The Minnesota case will at least go to trial and probably end in some sort of conviction. I doubt the BR case ends in anything. That will not be popular but my perception is most people don't know he was carrying a gun or had drawn a weapon on police before.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:53 am to molsusports
Not sure when it will be announced but I don't think this even goes to a trial or grand jury. There are too many what-if (personally I think it was a good shoot) I don't think any prosecutor would bring this case because they couldn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:54 am to Asgard Device
Those dudes are getting the chair
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:05 am to Celery
The BR police? They arent getting anything serious, if at all.
The Minnesota officer will get punished unless he has some good evidence supporting him.
The Minnesota officer will get punished unless he has some good evidence supporting him.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:07 am to baybeefeetz
and the OT will be ready to smash everyone on periscope and twitter
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:14 am to rt3
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Honestly, I don't even seeing this going to grand jury....it easily fits into the standard for lethal force.
Unbelievable.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:24 am to TigersforEver
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Unbelievable
What is so unbelievable about it?
It easily falls within the standards for justification of lethal force as the Supreme Court set.
Why would you even need to waste time and money taking it to a grand jury when it clearly is justified.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:30 am to upgrayedd
The surveillance video is probably grainy, from an angle, and above a ways off. They are probably worthless compared to the other videos which show he was resisting while standing, fighting on the ground, and moving his hand around by a gun while they were on the ground.
There's no reason the cops should have to wait for the guy to have a gun in his hand while fighting them to shoot him
There's no reason the cops should have to wait for the guy to have a gun in his hand while fighting them to shoot him
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:42 am to Dominate308
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I saw a report today where in 2009 Alton Sterling did exactly the same thing and did pull a gun on the officer. It's real and circulating around. If the officer who shot him was aware of this, and I'm sure they were, it's over. It will be a short investigation.
Both officers have only been on the force for 4 years I think. There's a chance they knew who he was because of his lengthy record but I'm not even sure they got as far as him identifying himself. All we've seen so far is the 20 second cell phone video.
Another angle Sterling's mom is playing is she's now saying there was no homeless man out there at all and they're going to try to say the police targeted him from the beginning.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 1:46 am to Asgard Device
This is going to calm down relatively soon. But it will be awhile until they announce no chargers which will fire it back up again. I just don't see how they can put together a case to charge him. Now the guy up in Minnesota is toast unless some more evidence comes out.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:19 am to Bad Medicine
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r justification of lethal force as the Supreme Court set.
By anyone or just by cops? We can't hold them to different standards when it comes to using force.
Posted on 7/11/16 at 3:42 am to Asgard Device
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How long will that take?
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