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re: When the LSU folks in the tech office were let go one part of that story stood out.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:44 pm to Anaximander
Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:44 pm to Anaximander
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LSU was spending 22% a year more the year he left office than the year he came in so it is a damned lie to say there was ever a cut in spending.
Exactly. Anytime you hear someone in government taking about cuts, it just means the automatic annual increase baked into the budget is trimmed. So the total budget still goes up every year just not as much as they planned.
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:18 pm to Anaximander
This board greatly underestimates the cost and man hours involved in converting data from a COBOL mainframe.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:44 pm to TigersFan64
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Definitely. I remember that well. Public support of higher education went down a lot during the BJ years
Public support for higher ed has suffered for many years. However, I understand that the draconian cuts by Jindal were an attempt to starve out smaller schools that he wanted closed.
He did enormous damage to the state trying to play to the Republican base in an ill advised attempt to become president.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:52 pm to Kimist
I worked on 3rd floor of Thomas Boyd at an accounting office for a student job in the late 90’s. There was a terminal straight from the 1980’s in a back office that no one ever touched.
On a lark one day I flipped a switch and it powered on. Next thing I know I had access to the bursar’s office which was on the 1st floor. Every students fees, records, etc...
Also, access to all grades. It was very similar to the old movie “Wargames” with Matthew Broderick. Rudimentary system but still operational.
Would bet anything that terminal is still sitting there today.
Kevin Faulk had a decent GPA. Mike Toole (aka 90’s Superfan) on the otherhand was not a math genius like was speculated around campus.
On a lark one day I flipped a switch and it powered on. Next thing I know I had access to the bursar’s office which was on the 1st floor. Every students fees, records, etc...
Also, access to all grades. It was very similar to the old movie “Wargames” with Matthew Broderick. Rudimentary system but still operational.
Would bet anything that terminal is still sitting there today.
Kevin Faulk had a decent GPA. Mike Toole (aka 90’s Superfan) on the otherhand was not a math genius like was speculated around campus.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:01 pm to Mr Breeze
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Didn't know COBOL was still a thing in large scale enterprise settings.
There's still some, maybe a lot, of legacy code running. I have no idea if anybody is doing substantial new development in Cobol.
There's nothing wrong with old code, if it works and can be moved to new hardware. Typically, moving the code as it exists to new hardware with different internal architectures would be the big problem, and if that problem looks big enough, that's when new code gets written.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:07 pm to Anaximander
This was less shocking when I learned most banks & a ton of other huge companies still use this kind of system. Lowe’s had it when I bought a dishwasher in store a couple weeks ago.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 7:12 am
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:24 pm to Klark Kent
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This board greatly underestimates the cost and man hours involved in converting data from a COBOL mainframe.
And you just have to visit the PT board to see how much we hate paying taxes. So no new roads or computers for us.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:31 pm to Evil Little Thing
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This was less shocking when I learned most banks & a ton of other huge companies still use this kind of system.
Five 9’s. They are reliable.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 4:35 pm to Anaximander
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This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:03 pm to Anaximander
They probably got tired of getting a do loop after stacking several hundred punch cards.
Old folks who were forced to take FORTRAN IV (computer science 1001?) will remember the frustration. Young folks will just be confused.
Old folks who were forced to take FORTRAN IV (computer science 1001?) will remember the frustration. Young folks will just be confused.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:27 pm to majoredinwhitehorse
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They probably got tired of getting a do loop after stacking several hundred punch cards.
Old folks who were forced to take FORTRAN IV (computer science 1001?) will remember the frustration. Young folks will just be confused.
OMG do I remember that....and now I actually could understand and debug a lot of my problems...
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:31 pm to Anaximander
But Saturday night in Death Valley is still awesome so who cares?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:36 pm to Mr Breeze
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Didn't know COBOL was still a thing in large scale enterprise settings.
It dominates the banking industry
LSU is in the company of hundreds if not thousands of universities nationwide that are still reliant upon old systems
The costs of modernization are incredibly high
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:42 pm to Mr Breeze
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Didn't know COBOL was still a thing in large scale enterprise settings.
It's huge in banking. Mainframe computing is also still in heavy use by many of the top corporations I'm the world.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:28 pm to Anaximander
Their choice not to have it supported. Just pay up.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 7:34 pm to Anaximander
Find me a cell phone capable of running a COBOL mainframe, dumbass.
For those not in computing, this kind of thing is far more common than you would think.
For those not in computing, this kind of thing is far more common than you would think.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:10 pm to TigersFan64
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the adults like JBE, Dardenne and Alario
I was like meh with Edwards, I cringed at Dardenne and then I spit my drink out when I read Alario.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:13 pm to Anaximander
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My phone has more computing power than a 43 year-old system.
I don't think you realize how often reliability trumps the latest and greatest.
You have probably unknowingly used 5+ things today that are based in the same language.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:18 pm to BeepNode
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this one really impressed me. Some guy that has since retired wrote an application that the business needed and it ran, without complaint, for 24 years straight.
Exactly.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:24 pm to BeepNode
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As far as LSU having to buy hardware on eBay, I have never worked for LSU, but that hasn't been my experience with COBOL systems running on IBM Mainframe because usually you can buy new mainframe equipment and migrate your code/jobs over.
My thoughts exactly. The new equipment doesn't even need to be mainframe per se... just emulate it.
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The only time I recall having to look on ebay was for some parts for an exotic Unix system that ran on hardware I had never heard of and also some Oracle system running on Intel Itanium servers.
I know of a very big corporation that had to go to eBay to get parts for some old EDC "storage solution." IBM mainframes? No, that's a little bit fishy.
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