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re: When did the french language become obsolete in Acadiana
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:17 pm to lsucoonass
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:17 pm to lsucoonass
I think it died off in some areas earlier than others. If I'm not mistaken it hung around in Evangeline Parish longer than most.
Posted on 9/12/15 at 9:29 pm to cheesesteak501
When the teachers would slap kids in back the head for speaking French. My dad who would be 62 spoke it. His dad spoke it and every generation before him. I guest it was lost on my generation (I'm 38)
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:05 am to Matisyeezy
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Yeah, my grandparents had to learn English when they went to school. That would have been around the late 40s, early 50s. My parents were born in the 60s, and they don't speak it fluently. So I'd say somewhere in that range.
Pretty much this. My Dad spoke Cajun French fluently, it was all he knew until he started grade school. He and his classmates were punished for speaking it on the school grounds.
By the time I graduated high school in the late '70s, very few children of my parents generation had learned to speak it.
I guess there were 3 or 4 of my Senior classmates who spoke it fluently.
LC
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:10 am to glassman
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My grandfather spoke French, French. Not that bastardized bullshite.
You're an ignorant a-hole. And I mean that sincerely.
LC
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:29 am to glassman
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My grandfather spoke French, French. Not that bastardized bull shite
Spoken like someone who doesn't know a thing about the language.
Wanna be better understood outside of Paris? Cajun french. Wanna be better understood in haiti? Cajun french. North africa? Cajun french. Quebec? Cajun french.
The language was a timeshot of french spoken 300 years ago in france. Which is much closer to what most the marseille area speaks along with the former french colonies.
Congrats on being uninformed and mindlessly furthering the stereotype that cajun french is somehow inferior to other varieties. It is a dialect. A dialect which remains closer to the varieties spoken in 90% of french speaking areas than the common Parisian french.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:41 am to kingbob
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Public schools physically beat the French language out of louisiana children starting around the 1930s. By the 50s, parents stopped teaching their children french because of the perception of french speakers as stupid and slow.
This. My Dad (born 1933) spoke little if any English when he started school. He said they whipped your arse until you learned English.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:47 am to LongueCarabine
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My Dad spoke Cajun French fluently, it was all he knew until he started grade school. He and his classmates were punished for speaking it on the school grounds.
Same here, Grandma spoke mostly french when talking with her friends when I was a kid.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:01 am to rantfan
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Like my parents, they used as a secret cajun-french, language, to talk about matters in their children's presence and on the phone to Vacherie kin.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:09 am to MMauler
Edwin Edwards
Saw one presentstion and forced LSU to startbthe cajun French program. Lsu had been refusing for years.
Saw one presentstion and forced LSU to startbthe cajun French program. Lsu had been refusing for years.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:05 pm to DrunkerThanThou
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Encouraged schools and businesses to squash it out in a single generation.
Too bad we can't do this for Spanish.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:14 pm to CaptainsWafer
The 50's & 60's generation of teens quit speaking it in response to their parents and spoke English with each other and their children.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:15 pm to cheesesteak501
This is another thing the Baby Boomers fricked up. My parents and all of their friends speak it fluently but none of them bothered to teach us. This still pisses me off to this day. Lol.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:20 pm to FlagLake
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This is another thing the Baby Boomers fricked up. My parents and all of their friends speak it fluently but none of them bothered to teach us. This still pisses me off to this day. Lol.
And ignorance rears its head again. My parents generation (born in the 20's and 30's) didn't teach us (Baby Boomers) the language, because they had been made to feel ashamed of speaking it in schools.
I know it's fashionable among your peers to bash Boomers, but please make an attempt at getting the facts right before putting your foot in your mouth.
LC
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:34 pm to LongueCarabine
Exactly. Greatest generation and lost generation to blame here.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:52 pm to CaptainsWafer
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Because the old people didn't teach it to the young people.
100% My parents and grandparents would talk about us kids in cajun french. They never bothered to teach it to us.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 1:32 pm to LongueCarabine
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And ignorance rears its head again. My parents generation (born in the 20's and 30's) didn't teach us (Baby Boomers) the language, because they had been made to feel ashamed of speaking it in schools.
I know it's fashionable among your peers to bash Boomers, but please make an attempt at getting the facts right before putting your foot in your mouth.
LC
LC, I don't know where you are from, but here in Avoyelles Parish the overwhelming majority of people over 60 can speak French. Their parents (the greatest generation) obviously taught them to speak it. The blame lies squarely with them around here.
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