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When a vehicle is finally ready to be retired, it's usually not because of the drivetrain?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:11 pm
Does anyone else agree with this statement? In my (admittedly limited) experience, the motivation for finally getting rid of vehicles has not been because of the drivetrains. Rather, it's been due to "a death from 1,000 cuts" of other, more minor issues, such as electronic or AC.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:14 pm to Zachary
People too lazy and self involved to do maintenance on their vehicles. My Corolla work car has over 300k miles on it. Cars will run a very long time if you take care of them.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:15 pm to Zachary
I do. I had a Yukon XL. Started having a lot of small issues so I got rid of it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:20 pm to Iron Lion
The only thing worse than doing manual labor on a daily driver is having to drive a Corolla for 300k miles.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:21 pm to Zachary
My last two vehicles, one broke the timing chain and one needed a ring job when I got rid of them. I could have kept them longer, both could have been fixed, but it was cost prohibitive for the value of the vehicle.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:21 pm to Zachary
I think with modern cars where the basic drivetrain maintenance is done the statement is correct.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:23 pm to Zachary
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:26 pm to Zachary
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When a vehicle is finally ready to be retired, it's usually not because of the drivetrain?
Absolutely true, if it were drive train related you would just haul your vehicle to the scrap yard when it was time to get rid of it. Even when there are major drive train problems, you always fix the vehicle to try to get some value out of it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:28 pm to Zachary
The left turn signal stopped working on my Audi S4 so I donated it to Goodwill.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:55 pm to Zachary
That’s exactly why manufacturers offer 100k mile drivetrain warranties.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:25 pm to Zachary
quote:
Does anyone else agree with this statement? In my (admittedly limited) experience, the motivation for finally getting rid of vehicles has not been because of the drivetrains. Rather, it's been due to "a death from 1,000 cuts" of other, more minor issues, such as electronic or AC.
“Getting rid of” doesn’t always mean “retired”.
Most people will get rid of vehicles when the small items start to add up. But that vehicle is usually sold/traded and continues its run.
When a vehicle is truly at retirement/scrap yard status, I’d say it’s likely a much higher % of drivetrain.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:27 pm to Zachary
Some of my early cars were retired simply for excessive rust or paint issues. The drivetrain was usually in good working order.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:44 pm to Zachary
I’m a “drive it ‘til the wheels fall off, buy new wheels and drive it a little longer” type of guy. I’ve actually never traded a vehicle in my entire life (almost 50yo) until this month.
Related/unrelated:
When I finally got the ‘20 Gladiator back from the ex (in February) it had almost 40k on the odometer, the transmission wasn’t shifting right, the oil hadn’t been changed in at least 20k miles, it shook horribly over 65mph and the list goes on and on.
I ordered a ‘21 diesel Gladiator and traded the ‘20 with 48k miles in on it. After all paperwork and money was exchanged, it cost me $1000 to own/drive the ‘20 from June (anniversary) of ‘19 to June (anniversary again) of ‘21.
Related/unrelated:
When I finally got the ‘20 Gladiator back from the ex (in February) it had almost 40k on the odometer, the transmission wasn’t shifting right, the oil hadn’t been changed in at least 20k miles, it shook horribly over 65mph and the list goes on and on.
I ordered a ‘21 diesel Gladiator and traded the ‘20 with 48k miles in on it. After all paperwork and money was exchanged, it cost me $1000 to own/drive the ‘20 from June (anniversary) of ‘19 to June (anniversary again) of ‘21.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:55 pm to Zachary
Yeah, I agree with that. You can rebuild a motor or a transmission, but good luck making a 15-year-old GM interior not look depressing.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:56 pm to Iron Lion
Subtle “I’m poor” reference.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:20 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:
The left turn signal stopped working on my Audi S4 so I donated it to Goodwill.
Probably a $10k repair that involves engine removal on an Audi.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:07 pm to Zachary
I’ve always traded in around 200k but never due to any issues with the car. I do my own maintenance myself.
I just figure it’s best to trade in before I get a major issue
I just figure it’s best to trade in before I get a major issue
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:31 pm to Zachary
Usually electrical problems. Everything else can be figured out. When there are faults in a wiring harness, you can spend years and thousands of $$$, and still not solve the problems.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:03 pm to Zachary
First car was a 72 buick skylark, all gold color,ran radials, radio shack tape player held up with a 7up can. 250k when I took the keys, sold to college roomate for 75 bucks. Drove the wheels off that car.
God I miss that car:
No air
No heat, scraping the inside of windshield in winter
Headliner falling
Radiator replaced twice
Brake lines 3 times
Ran rear winter tires year round (college car, not replacing all 4)
Steel wheel you could not touch after sitting in the sun all day.
Cut the emergency cable, frozen, nursed home twice (without brakes)
Best part:
First 2 BJ'S in that car
Beat: the shwinn varsity 10 speed (still have)
Motor: never stopped
Now:
Audi, S4 cab V8, still think about old car. So no, not poor but enjoyed the ride.
ETA: roommate ran it in a telephone pole a week later
God I miss that car:
No air
No heat, scraping the inside of windshield in winter
Headliner falling
Radiator replaced twice
Brake lines 3 times
Ran rear winter tires year round (college car, not replacing all 4)
Steel wheel you could not touch after sitting in the sun all day.
Cut the emergency cable, frozen, nursed home twice (without brakes)
Best part:
First 2 BJ'S in that car
Beat: the shwinn varsity 10 speed (still have)
Motor: never stopped
Now:
Audi, S4 cab V8, still think about old car. So no, not poor but enjoyed the ride.
ETA: roommate ran it in a telephone pole a week later
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:12 pm to Zachary
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a death from 1,000 cuts" of other, more minor issues, such as electronic or AC.
-Dash and door panels cracked from being in the sun
-Headliner falling down
-Intermittent gas guage
-Check engine light burned out
-Can't charge phone, cigarette lighter stopped working
-Sound only coming out of the passenger speaker
-Stains on top of stains on top of stains in the upholstery
-Broken power window button
-Key fob stopped working
-Rattling coming from every fricking where
-Trunk lid hits you in the head because the air cylinders lost all the air
-Intermittent mildew smell coming from the A/C vent
-Pennies glued to the bottom of the cup holder with dried coca cola
-Randomly hear the turn signal chime even when the turn signal is off
-Missing fuse box lid
-Glove box doesn't stay shut
-Driver side windshield wiper only touches the windshield in 2 places
-Steering wheel is more sticky than a piece of duct tape
-Seat belt never retracts, gets caught in the door every fricking time
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