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re: What’s your opinion of paid maternity/paternity leave?

Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:51 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:51 am to
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Hampton


How long did you take?
Posted by Hampton
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:55 am to
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ow long did you take?


It was about 3 to 5 days for each of my sons. Then I went back to work on the rig. The ladies in our family stepped up and helped after that. It was a joyous occasion. Not one to be looked at like work. One of my sons had jaundice and had to be in one of the light machines at home. But we enjoyed and loved our babies. I drove the extra hour and a half home every day so I could see them, but I still worked.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:58 am to
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men that take maternity leave contribute to the welfare state. The greatest generations of America didn't have this shite. I would dare say most of your fathers didn't do this crap. It seems only soft soy boys do it and find excuses to do it. I would dare say a lot of the leaders and men that are looked up today didn't have fathers that did it. Prove me wrong


frickin A brother

Birthdays, first steps, dance recitals are woke sissy shite too. Daddy's got chain to throw, let the women go to those things
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:01 am to
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Absolutely laughable. I guess your wife didn’t have to have a c section? Or pre eclampsia? Shut the hell up


My wife had a C section on a Wednesday and I was back at work on Monday. Like others said, dudes taking maternity leave is just milking it and employers take notice when it's raise/promotion time
Posted by Hampton
Member since Oct 2020
2538 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:04 am to
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Birthdays, first steps, dance recitals are woke sissy shite too. Daddy's got chain to throw, let the women go to those things


Clever, how many of you remember your first steps and who was there? When's the first birthday that you remember? Are you the type of person that throws a $3,000 birthday party for their third birthday? Probably. Go to work
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:08 am to
16 weeks paid leave. My bonus is pro-rated though. I won't take anywhere near that, but it's nice that it's there in case. We lose a lot of people in their 30s; this is a way to keep them around a bit longer.

This is the best benefit my company offers IMO. More American companies should do this.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 8:10 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:08 am to
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Probably. Go to work

Hail corporate
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:11 am to
I wouldn't have turned it down had it been offered to me.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:12 am to
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Clever, how many of you remember your first steps and who was there? When's the first birthday that you remember? Are you the type of person that throws a $3,000 birthday party for their third birthday? Probably. Go to work


the first 5 years are the most formative years of a child's life, yet we remember hardly any of it

your point is quite possibly the dumbest post on in this thread
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41495 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:13 am to
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I see a lot of people say the breakdown in communities is the breakdown of stable families. I then see those same people argue against paid Mat/pat leave. Beyond stupid.


Paid parental leave isn’t the basis for the breakdown of stable families, encouraging both men and women to think career first, family second conjoined with the whole “We can do anything men can” move of feminism and a cherry on top of society as while no longer shunning, belittling, and completely shitting on dead beat fathers has lead to this.

People not receiving parental leave isn’t what caused this breakdown. Now, I’m for paid maternity leave and paid paternity, but think they should be different lengths of time; anything to incentivize strong families I’m a fan of.

But I’ve seen this happen 4 times in my industry and heard from many others that women will take a full year of maternity leave, and on the Monday they come back submit their 2 weeks notice. That’s their right, but man does it just seem shitty.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:15 am to
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men that take maternity leave contribute to the welfare state. The greatest generations of America didn't have this shite. I would dare say most of your fathers didn't do this crap. It seems only soft soy boys do it and find excuses to do it. I would dare say a lot of the leaders and men that are looked up today didn't have fathers that did it. Prove me wrong


I would say you are probably 100% correct. The issue is were those men correct? Is it more important to be a good father or a leader who is looked up to? As a father and a husband there are exactly 3 people on the planet whose opinion of me matters a tinkers dam to me...my wife and 2 kids. If they look up to me I am a success and damn the opinion of anyone else. A lot of those men who are leaders and are looked up to have severe issues with their families and are often not the kind of people most of us would like to count as friends. Not always, some are great men who were also great husbands and fathers, but the number who were leaders but lousy husbands and fathers is not small in number....
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41495 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:18 am to
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No doubt. Some of these dumbasses spend more time off work for a hunting trip than they do for the birth of their child.


To be fair, a hunting trip restores my sanity and literally puts food on the table. Birth of my child did the exact opposite










And if you couldn’t tell, I’m being sarcastic.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45063 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:20 am to
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Go to work
Yeah, that TLP might float away.
Posted by Hampton
Member since Oct 2020
2538 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:20 am to
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the first 5 years are the most formative years of a child's life, yet we remember hardly any of it


Yes and during those 5 years, if you have a parent that is at home and teaching them and the other parent coming home at night or whenever they are off of work teaching them that teaches them so much more. Such as a work ethic. That is what happened and happens before all this soft shite. But I suppose you are one of those that throw the $3,000 birthday parties for a 3-year-old, I wonder how that forms them?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:21 am to
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But I’ve seen this happen 4 times in my industry and heard from many others that women will take a full year of maternity leave


What industry do you work in that women in the united states get a year off for maternity?
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
85397 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:22 am to
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the other parent coming home at night


Why? They won't remember it. Who cares. Get back on the rig.

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But I suppose you are one of those that throw the $3,000 birthday parties for a 3-year-old, I wonder how that forms them?


Yes, if my attitude towards my kids isn't "they won't remember it, so who cares if I'm there" that must mean I spend $3k on their 3rd birthday.

This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 8:24 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40320 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:23 am to
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the other parent coming home at night


You must not work that hard if you're coming home before your toddler is in bed for the night.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4638 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:24 am to
Both parents should have paid leave. Shoot, as messed up as it the UK is, they get a year. Work is not the most important thing in life. I’ve leaned that as I’ve gotten older.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41495 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:27 am to
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What industry do you work in that women in the united states get a year off for maternity?


Believe it or not, oil and gas. These major corporations have insanely expansive and all encompassing benefits packages, and with such a dramatic push/emphasis for women to populate STEM roles many companies are recognizing that most of these women are in dual income households where an extra $10K for a career is of marginal benefit to the family. Because of that, they are focusing more on the non-monetary benefits such as maternity leave, greater number of sick days and allowing child care emergencies to count as sick days, HSA’s and other Saving’s programs used for childcare, etc.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14132 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:28 am to
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teaches them so much more. Such as a work ethic.

No. It teaches kids that dad would rather be offshore than spending time with them and whether you believe it or not, kids notice. They aren’t dumb.
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