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re: What's the going rate for Lawncare service? What would you pay a 12 year old? --- UPDATE

Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:34 pm to
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I wouldn’t even step foot in a yard for less than $50


You aren't 12 either.

No way I'm paying a 12 year old $50 to mow a 1/2 acre lot, and I don't think anyone else will either. Maybe $25.

I can mow and weed eat my 1/2 acre lot in under 1 hour. Mowing takes about 35 minutes and then 15 at most to weed eat, 10 minutes at most to blow my driveway and back patio when I'm done. I'm not paying a 12 year old $50/ hr.

1 gallon of gas lasts me damn near all summer. My $750 honda mower which is way more than you HAVE to buy will last 7-10 years. Expenses really aren't much.

A 12 year old should not be getting nor deserves anywhere close to what a grown man does it for imo.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:35 pm to
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I’ve never understood this mentality. I completely get saving money and mowing yourself OR just not having the time or desire and paying someone else. What I don’t get is “I’d like to mow my own yard but I can’t afford a mower so I’m gonna pay someone else.”

Dude, for what he’ll pay someone else to mow 2.5 acres, at least $400 a month, he could put a zero turn on a Home Depot card and pay it off over a season. After a season you break even and have a mower free and clear.


Yeah, didn't make sense to me either... but???

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:38 pm to
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A 12 year old should not be getting nor deserves anywhere close to what a grown man does it for imo.



For doing the same work?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:39 pm to
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No way I'm paying a 12 year old $50 to mow a 1/2 acre lot, and I don't think anyone else will either. Maybe $25.


It really all depends on what you are paying the other guy, not what it costs you to do it or per hour costs.

The companies have to have trailers, truck, drive longer distances, more expensive mowers, etc.

Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:40 pm to
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A 12 year old should not be getting nor deserves anywhere close to what a grown man does it for imo.


If the kid does a good job, what does it matter how old he is? I could see paying less if it doesn’t look great but not just because he’s young.

This one of those Boomer mentality deals? Pay your dues by working for less just because you’re young while I get more for doing the same thing just because I’m older?
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24213 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:53 pm to
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If the kid does a good job, what does it matter how old he is? I could see paying less if it doesn’t look great but not just because he’s young.

This one of those Boomer mentality deals? Pay your dues by working for less just because you’re young while I get more for doing the same thing just because I’m older?


Risk, bruh.

First off, most people telling their yard guy price is someone that includes (or should) insurance.

2ndly, if a 12 year old gets hurt mowing your yard you are 100% fricked.

If a grown man that should have had insurance gets hurt, you are in much better shape.

ETA: Why would I pay the neighbor kid the same as the going rate? I may as well shop around at that point?
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:58 pm to
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ETA: Why would I pay the neighbor kid the same as the going rate? I may as well shop around at that point?


Well it's sounding like 80-100 a acre is about half the going rate.

Hard to tell though, lots of prices without size or description.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24213 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:00 pm to
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Well it's sounding like 80-100 a acre is about half the going rate.


Could be. But again, we are talking about someone that doesn't use yard service with decent at best kept yards in a poor economy.

Even $50/ cut is $200/ month.

I'm not sure how many are going to swing that.

Now, $20/ cut or $80/ month. Sure.

Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:07 pm to
$20 an acre? He would spend probably half that in gas this summer.

Mines an acre and usually takes about 2 gallons.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:13 pm to
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WHO IS LIABLE WHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD KID IS CUTTING GRASS?

BY BRENNAN HURLEYAPRIL 20, 2021PERSONAL INSURANCE

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WHO IS LIABLE WHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD KID IS CUTTING GRASS?

I hear there are still some teens out there willing to put down their phones, grab a lawnmower and make some money.  Good for you kid.  Even if you just want to save up for a better phone.
But who is liable while they’re cutting the grass (or raking leaves, mulching, planting flowers.. you get the idea)?
Well, that depends on what happens.  Did the worker get injured? Or did the neighbor cause damage to your property.  We’ll address each situation separately.

SCENARIO 1) NEIGHBORHOOD KID IS INJURED WHILE CUTTING MY GRASS

Any time a person is on your property, there is the potential for liability.  But just because they’re on your property, that doesn’t necessarily make you liable for their injuries.  To be liable, you have to contribute to the damage in some way.

WHEN YOU ARE LIABLE:

So for instance, let’s say you were planting a tree.  You started digging the hole and then stopped.  Gary from down the street offers to cut your grass and you say okay.  Gary can’t see the hole you started because of the tall grass, trips and tears a ligament in his leg.
In this case, you contributed by having a tripping hazard on  your property.  In that case, you would look to your homeowners policy to pay the liability claim for Gary’s medical payments.

WHEN YOU ARE NOT LIABLE:

What if Gary injures himself while clearing debris from his mower?  You didn’t have anything to do with his injuries, and so you will not be liable for his injuries.  That being said, I’m not an attorney and ultimately the courts always get the final say.  Just sayin..

SCENARIO 2) NEIGHBORHOOD KID CAUSES DAMAGE WHILE MOWING MY LAWN

First, I’m assuming if you hired a professional lawn service you’d check their insurance.  For more on certificates of insurance click here.  I think we can also assume the local kid hanging flyers on the telephone pole didn’t bother to get business insurance.  And that’s okay.
Homeowners insurance policies have limited coverage for kids in business.  Generally speaking, for kids under 18 there will be liability coverage if they are:

Self-employed

Do not have employees

Part time or occasional

That means if their lawnmower throws a rock at your neighbor’s car window (or worse, your neighbor) causing damage, then the kid’s (parent’s) home insurance should pay the claim.
In this case, you didn’t contribute to the damage, so you should not be liable for the claim.


Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24213 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:13 pm to
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$20 an acre? He would spend probably half that in gas this summer.

Mines an acre and usually takes about 2 gallons


Acre lot or acre cut?

My home is .48 acre lot, it takes me 35 minutes to walk mow it and I use under 1/2 tank of gas. I just looked it up, one tank looks likes .237 gallons. So I'm using about 1/10 of a gallon per probably 1/4 acre or a little under of grass to cut.

Again though, guy is 12. I agree with the others I don't think I'd pay a 12 year old to use a riding mower. A push mower probably.

I'm not hating on the idea. I'm just being realistic, I would pay a 12 year old to cut my yard if I needed it. I wouldn't pay him close to the going rate or I'd hire it out.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:14 pm to
Acre cut.

And it seems like he would be covered under our home insurance, but I will check.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83032 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Love this thread. Same board full of “kids these days don’t want to work” threads saying they’d never let the kid cut their grass. I’d probably pay him $50 if he does a decent job. I wish I had a kid in the neighborhood asking to do my yard.



To be fair, the majority of the board complains that young adults don't want to work. Not 12 year old children.

While I see the value in getting your 12-year-old into early jobs like lawn cutting, I wouldn't be hiring a 12-year-old myself. Especially not at the rate some are posting here, which is the rate we pay a full blown lawn service already.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10188 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:36 pm to
It's good to encourage him to get out and do something to earn some cash, but don't let him do it cheap the first time to get his foot in the door. If he's cutting yards like an adult, he ought to be paid like an adult as well.

Easy method that I use to give kids in our neighborhood an idea of the value of their work to cut grass is-
1 Acre: $85.00
3/4 Acre: $70.00
1/2 Acre: $55.00
1/4 Acre: $40.00

That's based upon a round about average for the time it takes to cut a yard of the above sizes.

For the record, and acre is pretty large. It's 43.600 s.f., or about 209' by 209'. It'll take about four hours to cut with a push mower and about 1-1/2 to 2 hours to cut on a typical Cub Cadet style riding mower unless it's a wide open and clear yard.

The kid has gas to pay for and equipment to maintain so I figure that's a fair price and should prove satisfactory to him for summer cash. Just be sure he sets about 1/3 to 1/2 of his earnings aside for gas and maintenance of his equipment and only uses the remainder of that for his wages. He'll learn to run a real business at an early age if he follows those guidelines.

He can consider discounts for those big, open yards with few obstructions. Say maybe a 15% break off the regular price.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:49 pm to
40$/Acre

He’s 12. He can take it or leave it.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5485 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:53 pm to
I’m on 3/4 of an acre. 11 years ago when I moved here it was $25/cut. My rate this year is $65/cut. That’s mow, edge, trim, and blow. And I ain’t looking for garden of the month quality either.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36787 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:53 pm to
That's about spot on what I was thinking.

I told him if he did more than one some money would have to go to mower maintenance.

And we have a cub cadet and it takes me about 1.5-2 hours to mow our 1 acre.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24213 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:13 pm to
A full 1 acre lot is a little different. Can he honestly do your yard mow, weed eat, and blow? I mean realistically he could just mow.

My point is, 1.5-3 hours straight of work is quite a bit for a 12 year old. I'm not sure I'd trust a 12 year old to cut a full 1 acre of grass every week or 3 times a month reliably. 1 acre lot, absolutely.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32075 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:14 pm to
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lol at paying a 12 year old $100 to mow an acre lawn
I'm not either.
I pay $75/week to a 15 yr old to mow 1.5 ac weekly with a zero turn mower + edge + weed eat + blow driveway, pool walkways, etc.
I pay him damn good money ($500 twice a year) to help trim tree's, tote limbs, weed flower beds, throw pine straw and help my wife plant flowers. And another $500 to help the wife put up and take down Christmas shite.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41216 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:17 pm to
$50-$60 if he’s cutting, edging, and blowing. Tell him make sure to raise those blades so he can get them every week
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