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re: What would you tell the dying man?
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:42 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:42 am to Mike da Tigah
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 6:45 am
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:48 am to OWLFAN86
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Accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and repent
What do you mean by repent? Are you suggesting he stop sinning in his last 60 seconds?
He repents when he changes his mind from some of the stuff mentioned in this thread (baptism, good works, etc.) to believing on Jesus and him alone for salvation.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:52 am to Mike da Tigah
Tell him
I bet I know where you got dem shoes.
I bet I know where you got dem shoes.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:53 am to awestruck
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That faith without works is dead; so lets remember the good you have done.
Galatians 2:16
16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 7:06 am to lsufanva
I’m not sure if death bed confessions are as simple and sure as everyone makes them out to be, If you don’t really have faith and trust in God I don’t think it matters. So, I would just ask if he had a message for a loved one and promise to pass it on.
We all know about the thief at the cross and the story of Lazarus and the rich man, we all know that Paul in Philippians 1:23 desires “to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better.” And these passages are what we base our idea of how it all works. However, I never thought the most direct explanation 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18 came across that way.
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
I sometimes think the scripture kept the mechanics of the afterlife a mystery, perhaps intentionally.
quote:I’ve wondered about this…If we aren’t judged until the second coming, how do we receive our punishment or reward beforehand?
He'll find out if heaven/hell is real before we do.
We all know about the thief at the cross and the story of Lazarus and the rich man, we all know that Paul in Philippians 1:23 desires “to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better.” And these passages are what we base our idea of how it all works. However, I never thought the most direct explanation 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18 came across that way.
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
I sometimes think the scripture kept the mechanics of the afterlife a mystery, perhaps intentionally.
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/17/26 at 7:10 am to GreenRockTiger
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is He?
Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19 and Nahum 1:2 seem to suggest He is, indeed. God’s vengefulness against sin is displayed in the Bible as a righteous response to disobedience and rejection of His will, manifesting as divine judgment.
Examples of vengeance include Israelites wandering the wilderness, the Flood (Genesis 6–9), the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19), the plagues on Egypt/Pharaoh (Exodus 14-15), and the punishment of Nadab and Abihu (Leviticus 10). Revelation 19 seems to suggest Jesus is preparing wrath and vengeance in his return. The seventh bowl in Revelation also suggests vengefulness describing “a fury of His wrath.”
Posted on 2/17/26 at 7:11 am to Mike da Tigah
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You walk outside and you see a man on the side of the road with only 60 seconds left to live, and he asks you “What must I do to make sure that I go to Heaven?”
What do you tell him?
That there ain't no heaven and he had better lived life while alive instead of waiting to live it up in heaven. That would take up most of the poor bastards 60 seconds.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 7:25 am to Mike da Tigah
Be truly sorry in your heart for all your sins and ask Jesus for forgiveness.
Be. Truly. Sorry. That’s the key, detachment from sin is not easy.
Sirach 15 was the reading Sunday and it hits hard.
Be. Truly. Sorry. That’s the key, detachment from sin is not easy.
Sirach 15 was the reading Sunday and it hits hard.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 7:42 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Interesting take.
I just looked that up, as I never heard of it before.
Lots of disagreement surrounding that writing, outside of the Catholic denomination.
Thanks for posting.
I just looked that up, as I never heard of it before.
Lots of disagreement surrounding that writing, outside of the Catholic denomination.
Thanks for posting.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 7:42 am to Mike da Tigah
" Looks like you won't be needing them new boots anymore."
Posted on 2/17/26 at 8:25 am to Mike da Tigah
Travel safe bro.
Hope you had a good run.
Hope you had a good run.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 9:45 am to Canon951
quote:That doesn't say what you think it says.
16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.
It says just doing good will not get you to heaven, it takes faith, however the bible also says that faith without works is dead.
HOWEVER the question was what you would say. And to this there is no wrong answer, because the answer would always be true, it's what the person is saying they would say. Because we were asked, What would you tell the dying man?, not what do you consider the best thing to say.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:23 am to awestruck
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That doesn't say what you think it says.
Wrong. It says exactly what it says. No one is justified before God by keeping the law (doing good deeds).
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however the bible also says that faith without works is dead.
You are referring to the Book of James. This is talking about faith without works is not profitable to men. We are justified before God by faith, but since man can't see our faith, we are justified by our works before other men so that they can see Christ in us and hopefully come to faith.
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HOWEVER the question was what you would say. And to this there is no wrong answer, because the answer would always be true, it's what the person is saying they would say. Because we were asked, What would you tell the dying man?, not what do you consider the best thing to say.
I was replying to the poster that said he would bring up the man's good deeds to him in his last 60 seconds. I was emphasizing that doing this would not do him any good.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:06 am to Canon951
quote:Then you tagged the wrong person... because you replied to me... otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my time correcting you.
I was replying to the poster that said he would bring up the man's good deeds to him in his last 60 seconds. I was emphasizing that doing this would not do him any good.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:10 am to lsufanva
quote:1 John 5:13
None of us know the true answer…
“I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.”
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:37 am to awestruck
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Because they each tell a different story, each one different and not agreeing, unless you combine them and create your own expanded edition. But then you'd no longer have 4 independent accounts and something that you can not definitively say all (4) would agree with.
It's not that they disagree, it's just that that they are telling of the event from the authors perspective 30+ years later. Of course they are going to emphasis difference things. The fact that there is significant overlap in agreement between the events are more direct proof that they happened.
ETA: Also, if a bedside conversion isn't enough time to truly be saved, what interval of time is sufficient? 1 hour? 1 Day? 1 Year?
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 11:39 am
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:10 pm to N2cars
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Lots of disagreement surrounding that writing, outside of the Catholic denomination.
Probably lots of disagreement within the Catholic Church. It’s easier to believe we are all so helpless toward sins and the big pez dispenser is the sky has issued some blanket pardon.
Then you read scripture and realize there’s a lot of room for personal responsibility in your damnation. This week I’ve been focused on picking myself up, dusting off, and stepping out toward the correct decisions again.
Good time with Lent right around the corner.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:22 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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It’s easier to believe we are all so helpless toward sins and the big pez dispenser is the sky has issued some blanket pardon.
I don't know any Christians that (helpless) believe that.
Of course, we sin, but just using Jesus as a "blanket pardon" isn't typically taught when we sin purposefully.
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Good time with Lent right around the corner.
Absolutely.
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