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re: What was New Orleans like in 1994?

Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:06 am to
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13830 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:06 am to
It was mainly gang type violence, but between projects like Calliope, Desire, Magnolia, etc. and not bloods/crips.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25333 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:27 am to
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1994


It was from gang wars (NOLA neighborhoods). You didn’t go into certain areas unless you wanted to buy drugs. As long as you stayed out of those areas, you were pretty damn safe.

After Katrina, and really when Mitch took over, there was a movement to create a diaspora of sorts, and I would argue it was 100% intentional to make a certain few rich. Depressed properties were bought up for pennies and the projects were demolished. They were replaced with houses that would remain “public” housing for (I think) 6-10yrs and then would be treated as housing stock, to be rented and or sold for market rate.

This virtually priced out many and those on public assistance began to filter into section 8 housing, which started to pay a premium. Landlords cashed in and so began the sprinkles of crime all over the city and not just concentrated areas.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 12:46 am
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15588 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 12:39 am to
I remember walking down Decatur street late that year, and a buinessman had a jaw-dropping window sign with a running tally of NOLA murders (410) versus a similar sized city, Boston murders (25).

For someone like me, who worked & played in the French Quarter 6 days/wk, it was sobering. I had been pretty dismissive of the danger up until then as a 26y/o.

Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
3832 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 1:46 am to
My experience was the mid to late 80s were worse in terms of widespread crime. I lived on a good street in the heart of uptown and there was a home invasion and a murder a block down from me. 1986-87 or so. Every house on that block is now worth low seven figures. Today feels eerily similar with the hoodrats back to prowling uptown and holding people up. It's going to take a couple of brave homeowners blowing some of these hoodrats away. It's worked before. They only respond to the threat of violence or being locked away. The moronic ideas of Williams and Ferguson currently being discussed are laughable.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
34637 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:20 am to
It was so bad that even the police (Antoinette Frank) were killing people.

I was in high school at the time. I remember it being really bad, but mostly confined to certain neighborhoods/areas. The city was much bigger back then.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41877 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:23 am to
What year were the NOLA police busted for a crime/drug ring?
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4581 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:30 am to
The NOPD is bad now, but that was the era of NOPD officers Antoinette Frank and Len Davis. Frank had her partner shot in the head…3 times…while robbing a Chinese restaurant and executing two siblings who worked there, while Davis was busted by the feds for “murder for hire”. That should give you an idea what the city was like then.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:57 am to
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There's gotta be some people on here that lived through that. I want to know what that was like.


I was living on Carrollton not far from Claiborne back then.

It was like it is now, a complete shite show.

Living in New Orleans taught me to make sure I’m armed at all times.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3804 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:58 am to
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What was New Orleans like in 1994?



If you want to look good you would need:

A sharp Girbaud shirt, Polo socks, Girbaud shorts and a pair of Reeboks.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 7:59 am
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2988 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 8:10 am to
I was going out all the time in New Orleans between 92-95 we would walk the quarter and canal street we did not have any issues because most of the violence was contained to certain areas. But if you ended up in any of those areas it was very scary and real chance you would be shot.

Also I remember the NOPD being very corrupt and kind of controlling the quarter.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12209 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 8:18 am to
Not nearly as good as it was in before Moon Landrieu became mayor
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33160 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 8:21 am to
I started at the Orleans Parish DAs office in October of 1993. We had so much on the docket it was ridiculous. I got to see things in my 2.5 years there that were eye opening and quickly destroyed any idealism that I thought I had.

It was bad enough that you had a high murder rate, but fully one quarter of the murders could have been "prevented" if we could have kept people in jail. But when the community was less than cooperative....and living in fear of both the cops and criminals you had a problem. When you had cops running a criminal empire(Len Davis) and cops killing other cops ( Antoinette Franks...I hate her with every fiber in my body) you had a major problem. Then factor in that you had out of town entities trying to get in to take advantage of the drug trade you had a problem. Then you had little to no coordination between different LE groups. NOPD did not like talking to JP even when JP had solid tips and St Bernard was totally ignored...usually even though the guys from the Parish were ex NOPD guys. Connick would plead with Barthelemy and later Marc Morial to work with Harry Lee and Mike Yenni and in St Bernard, Jack Stephens, but politics would get in the way.

On top of that you had the Levee Board cops who would screw things up. I had at least 3 cases in 6 mos where I had to let major criminals off the hook because Levee Board f'd up.

My first big case was the Bennie Thompson murders where his ex wife, kid and two others were killed in a house on a Sunday morning on Morrison near Crowder. That was drug related, and personal at the same time and there was so much of it that we could almost prove but would get stymied by NOPD higher ups and it turns out. Feds.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3579 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 8:27 am to
Isn't it around this time frame the FBI or whoever started reclassification of the severity of crimes? So violent crime stats were down on paper even though the same amount of crime was happening?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
145056 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 8:48 am to
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What was New Orleans like in 1994?
was able to ride my bike to to the open air market in the 10th ward for the best dope. Most cops literally refused to ride through there.

It was 1994 when Eric Boyd was like the 10th child killed with a stray bullet walking through the playground. That in incident marked the beginning of the end of the St Thomas projects. They were completely demolished in the next 3-4 years said for a few buildings for historic preservation.

The brilliant plan to demo the project so quickly called to have the residents relocate to the St Bernard Projects in the 7th ward and then you drug gangs living in the same complex vying for the same territory.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
5761 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 9:35 am to
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Isn't it around this time frame the FBI or whoever started reclassification of the severity of crimes? So violent crime stats were down on paper even though the same amount of crime was happening?


It's hard to judge crime rates due to some municipalities either not reporting property crime or classifying property crime as vandalism, etc. Murder is the one thing that can't be covered up, although likely a few murders are likely ruled suicides.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14363 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 9:36 am to
It was a shithole. Which apparently were trying to repeat.
Posted by UnoDelgado
Covington
Member since Nov 2019
622 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 9:42 am to
Each of the old projects had a gang. Drive by shootings were commonplace. I lived about 5 blocks from the old st Thomas. Semi automatic gun shot sounds were nightly especially in the summer. Worth noting that the NOPD was still corrupt around this time.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70440 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 9:44 am to
Murder capital of the world!!!

They was no social media back then to play all the scare tactics that you see today.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133665 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 9:45 am to
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What was New Orleans like in 1994?


Very shitty. It was (probably still is) a nightly ritual to watch the evening local news to check out the murders of the day. That ritual started around the mid seventies with my parents and grandparents.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31822 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 10:38 am to
I was 1-2 years old. I got nothing.
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